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> Most eu citizens voted NO [0] to their own referendum to enter European Union

> [0]https://www.finalscape.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/forfai...

That's the French referendum on establishing a European Constitution (ratifying the TCE), held _decades_ after they were already a member of the EU. It's nothing to do with entering the EU, and _can't _ speak for most EU citizens (as it's only France). Further, the TCE was not ratified.

Ah now, that's misleading. The constitution was defeated in two seperate referenda in France and the Netherlands.

The details numbers of said constitution were filed off overnight in Brussels, and the lisbon treaty was born.

I voted against it, twice, even though I'm a federalist as it was profoundly undemocratic.

True, I did neglect to comment on Lisbon, but I'm not sure which part is misleading - Lisbon incorporated _many_ of the changes from the proposed constitution, but it's not identical but by another name.

The Netherlands referendum isn't particularly relevant here, as OP only cited the French result when referring to "Most eu citizens".

A little late, but can you share with me the differences between the two?

Almost every part of the constitution except the form was made part of the Lisbon treaty.

Again, I paid attention to this (and read both the constitution and the treaty) because in Ireland, we actually did get to vote on it (as required by our constitution).

> Most eu citizens voted NO [0] to their own referendum to enter European Union

You linked one image without context. Not sure what is it, but I can guess that "resultats provisoires" means we should look for a better source.

Maybe like this - it doesn't look like most disagreed there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_related_to_the_Eur...

It's the European Constitution vote. Still not an accession vote though.

> When transport leader Alstom decided to acquire Canadian transport bombardier , EU refused and forced Alstom to permanently shut down one it’s factory and terminate all workers to accept[1]

Your own source says they're forced to sell one of their factories to a competitor to even out the playing field, not shut it down. Considering the future merged Alstom-Bombardier has a near monopoly in most EU markets, it makes sense to force divestment.

France's poor handling of the pandemic has way more to do with late measures and poor decisions earlier this year than the number of nurses and MD. More nurses will not make the virus less infectious.

As often, EU is a nice scapegoat.

Belgium, Italy, the UK, Spain, and the Czech Republic all have higher deaths per million than France.

Peru and the USA are doing worse too, I didn't even know they were in the EU!

https://covidgraph.com/

This comment is so terribly bad, end-to-end, from the linked "sources" that say nothing even close to the statement they are supposed to support, to punctuation, to cherry-picking and misrepresenting some specific half-truths, I'm not entirely sure if it isn't intended to disparage opposition to the EU by making that opposition look stupid.