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Comment by jwiley | Hacker News Reader

CD Project forced their employees to crunch to get a game out, missed deadlines, and shipped a game that is buggy on some definition of last-gen hardware. Assuming all that is true: how is this news? This essentially describes every ambitious, genre defining game for the last 35 years. As someone who tearfully tried to play Doom on a 286, I have some sympathy but the level of outrage is hard for me to understand.

In my experience playing the game on a PS4 Pro (does that qualify as a last-gen console? Not sure), I have experienced no game breaking bugs or performance issues that warrant the level of criticism here. Instead I have been blown away by the level of detail and beauty of the world they created and I personally am over the moon with the fact the game that I had been eagerly awaiting exceeds my expectations for it.

Congrats CD Projekt, take a vacation, give some bonuses, let people upgrade their 5 year old hardware and chill out.

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> This essentially describes every ambitious, genre defining game for the last 35 years.

This is news because the quoted statement is false. In fact, the opposite is true. Every genre defining game of the past 35 years has had a genre defining gold print. CP2077 is a dumpster fire. It will never be considered a great because of its launch.

I assume you’ve actually played the game on a console, and experienced game breaking bugs? Or maybe you subjectively consider the quality to not match your well thought out expectations previous to purchasing it? Can you please expand on your personal experiences with the game that led you to the dumpster fire conclusion?

I’m also curious about your statement that every genre defining game has had a genre defining gold print. Can you point to one or more similar games that launched flawlessly across all platforms, on time, without negative reviews?

I played 2 hours of cyberpunk on PC. I returned it when I saw just how buggy it was. I don’t have a documented list of bugs, because that’s not how I enjoy games. Documentation of 1.04 bugs are plenty of places. You can’t miss them. They get in the way of playing. The most annoying bugs are related to weapons and NPCs. CDPR’s known for their storytelling, but when the game makes the story difficult to consume, then it isn’t worth my money.

  Flawlessly launched genre defining games:
   - Quake (and its arena shooter successor: Halo)
   - Assassin’s Creed
   - Grand Theft Auto III
   - Super Mario 64
   - Your favorite fighting game
   - Your favorite racing game
   - Your favorite rhythm game
   - Your favorite JRPG
   - Deus Ex

Could you provide even one example of a genre defining game that had a bad launch?

Quake? Flawless?! I played that on a 486 25 that was rated as the minimum spec and it would barely load and crunched along at 6 FPS but I loved it and was happy to get it. I played Skyrim and fallout 3 on a MacBook and it was truly painful but again that doesn’t detract from the incredible work, artistry and effort that went into the game and that it carried the genre forward.

If you came to different conclusions chalk it up to subjective differences. I completely disagree that it’s a dumpster fire but I suspect we want different things out of cutting edge games or technology in general.

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