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Futurists were the most punk rock artistic movement before punk rock happened in the 70s. They even invented Industrial noise before Throbbing Gristle with Russolo's "Art of Noises" and orchestra of noise makers. The interesting thing about them is while they enjoyed shocking people and beating up their artistic rivals, they weren't nihilists like punks were: they were punk rock for technological progress rather than sticking bolts through their noses in defiance of de-industrialization.

"Pasta is a cruel and brutalizing food that makes you lazy and sentimental."

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The post-Fascist futurists had a lot going for them as well - especially the Soviets, who basically created the foundation for modern electronic music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTj1TtXHKG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTiSkiUw7dA&list=OLAK5uy_lx_...

(side note: I lament being born too late to ever experience real subculture...)

These days I think living a life without living it through social media is about as subcultural as it gets. Almost in the literal sense.

Futurists, though, were by and large fascists.

Punk is strong anti-fascist.

A punk-like movement is a product of its time and opposed to the status quo. Modern punk and Futurism are a similar idea borne out of a very different substrate.

Of course it's easy in retrospect to note that (Italian) fascists and Futurist groups did cross paths during their ascent, but that does not mean that Futurism was fascist in its philosophy.

This is ahistorical. Marinetti‘s futurism was extremely fascist. His Futurist party merged with the Fascist party. He wrote the Futurist manifesto and co-wrote the Fascist manifesto.

The Futurist manifesto has “gems” such as: “We want to glorify war - the only cure for the world - militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of the anarchists, the beautiful ideas which kill, and contempt for woman.”

Marinetti’s political party: Fasci Politici Futuristi

Source: TFA

There are fascists punks and there are anti-fascists punks and there are punks who do not care about politics.

Nazi punks fuck off!

Might depend on your country certainly the UK Punk /new wave, ska two tone scene was very political and 99% progressive (Morrisey being the one stand out)

OI certainly had a strong association with hard right politics - but that was a bit later.

They were also the first to notice, in writing in any case, that the world around them now sounded of machines so why not use that in music? Much like, our lives are increasing electronic, and so is so much now of the music we listen to. We truly reflect the world around us in our creative expressions.

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