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>Let's be clear: there was no widespread election fraud, certainly not by large enough margins to overturn the election

There's evidence to the contrary that is yet to be addressed. There may very well be too little voter fraud to matter, but at the moment, no one can say that with confidence if they are paying attention to the allegations.

If Youtube feels obligated to correct what it thinks are misconceptions, they can present their arguments and evidence that contradict current allegations. They should hire a team of lawyers to put together the most up to date refutations of claims, and post that on relevant videos.

Straight censorship is treating the general public like children. Arguably, it's treating the public like livestock. Domesticating us for ad revenue.

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No, there isn't. Stop it. Over 40 lawsuits were thrown out on the basis of absolute lack of merit.

There has literally not been a single case of "evidence" that hasn't been debunked and considered to be a laughable and ill-intended piece of lies.

It baffles me that so many people fall for what Trump says. He was already declaring fraud weeks before the election because he knew exactly how it would pan out. People described exactly what he would do and he did it. He declared he won on the election night before all votes were counted. It is so blatantly explicit that he is lying, gaslighting, and deceiving people that it amazes me how so many intelligent, educated people fall for this crap.

The fact he is a conman, legally has been found so (Trump university, his own charity, two easy examples off the top of my head but there are plenty more) and yet this is the man they believe?

It's a true sickness in this country. I don't know what it is, the racism, or what. Why seemingly functional people are taken in so easily by an obvious conman.

7 months ago 80% of democrats weren't confident that the election would be free and fair. Most of them seem happy to accept the result now.

I think this is human nature rather than a flaw with members of a particular party but I think it is worthwhile for people to compare their own views before and after the election.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-exclusi...

Of course they were not confident. Do you recall all the actions taken by Republicans to try to suppress votes? A lot of work had to be done by Democrats and some Republicans to make sure there was no vote suppression.

Lindsey Graham said out loud and clear on Fox News that Republicans must do something about votes by mail otherwise they will never be able to elect another Republican. He doesn’t seem to believe they can win without suppressing votes.

The election isn't fair, be it from voter suppression, gerrymandering, reduction of polling places and ID issuance locations, voter roll purging, etc, etc.

Latest example:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/georgia-count...

That still doesn't mean there was any fraud.

Already 7 months ago evidence was seen of Trump rationalizing away future losses. He mobilized plans to defund the Postal Service, deligitimize drop-off ballots, and claim that the Democrats were going to engage in fraud.

I'm sorry but that's just not it, at least not this time. When you have a narcissistic psychopath that needs to feed his ego, and army of yes-men who have no regards for laws and ethics, it pays to be extra careful. It was partially because of this dilligence that plans to remove drive-by ballot drop-offs by Republicans were thwarted.

*Over 50.

They haven't had a single win. There hasn't been any substantiated claims. Zero. No evidence of wide spread voter fraud has appeared.

Yet they continue with these talking points.

Polite society needs to say "Enough!" to these liars who are tearing apart our democracy in service of Donald Trump, of all people.

allegations !== evidence

> There's evidence to the contrary that is yet to be addressed.

No there isn't, and no one has yet even CLAIMED in court that there is. Every time the Trump legal team went before a judge, they themselves denied that they have any evidence or even CLAIM of fraud.

Sure, on TV they say all sorts of crazy stuff, but when it really matters, they back down.

There is no evidence of widespread fraud in this election whatsoever.

> but at the moment, no one can say that with confidence if they are paying attention to the allegations

And yet marvel at the number of otherwise highly logical people who do just that.

> If Youtube feels obligated to correct what it thinks are misconceptions, they can present their arguments and evidence that contradict current allegations. They should hire a team of lawyers to put together the most up to date refutations of claims, and post that on relevant videos.

It's interesting that:

- a centralized, slowly changing "balance sheet" approach like this, which is a standard in project management, is rarely taken toward matters of public concern - I am a conspiracy theorist, but if there was a resource that enumerated all of the "just(!) a conspiracy theory" claims and illustrated how it is known(!) that they are false, I would gladly read it. Rather, the public has to somehow sort out what is true based on hundreds of "news" articles that get released into the information ecosystem on a daily basis. Or, just offload their thinking to The Experts.

- we regularly hear that we need more "critical thinking" among the public, but we never get further than talking about the incredibly important need for this

It's also interesting that ~nobody seems to notice these sorts of things (and when they are mentioned, it seems to generally displease people, for reasons that are not stated).

I sometimes wonder if these sorts of information management oversights, apparently by thousands of people in positions of power, are purely accidental.

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