Is it painful for you too?
This is how Facebook-style urban legends spread
Muscle soreness, minor fever, and minor swelling (as someone who had immunotherapy -- the swelling you describe really is minor) are pretty common side effects of most vaccines[1]. And of course, your example is just anecdotal evidence.
These kinds of side-effects really aren't new at all, and I'd be surprised if anyone whose had regular vaccines hasn't encountered them at least once. It's just your body's immune response, and it's effectively an indication that the vaccine is triggering the desired immune response.
I also want to point out that in this comment thread we have an unsourced rumour about someone having swelling of some description (which you've also repeated without a source). That isn't even an anecdote, it's just an flat-out evidence-free claim.
FWIW, this conversation doesn't affect my plans to take the vaccine and shouldn't affect anyone else's. I was just genuinely curious if anybody had experienced such a side effect before.
I haven't done much research into the vaccine myself, although the mRNA aspect is really interesting. But, rumors are basically how human beings communicate. Ignoring and then complaining about them doesn't seem as productive as addressing them.
mRNA contains a temporary copy of gene sequences that is used by cells in the body to create proteins. i.e. normally in the body information in DNA in the cell core is copied into mRNA, and other parts of the cell then read the mRNA to create proteins based on the structure described in it. (thus the name "messenger RNA")
A traditional vaccine (e.g. the flu vaccines) would inject either a weakened form of the virus or material with characteristic protein patterns matching the virus, with the goal to cause the immune system to adapt against this pattern. An mRNA vaccine instead provides the cells at the injection site with mRNA that describes the characteristic proteins, and thus causing them to create the proteins themselves.
Other than the obvious, why are they approving the usage of this technology, when there are no long term (10+ years) studies on the safety of this technology?
Under normal conditions, the FDA might be more reluctant. However, a substantial number of people are dying every day to Covid. Additionally, there is a substantial economic impact due to how easily it spreads.
It seems prudent that this technology be approved if there is a reasonable, although less stringent than normal, reason to believe that it is both safe and effective.
What if it triggers side effects after 50 years, lets postpone vaccination untill 22nd centiry!
What side effects are expected after several years, what plausible mechanism is there?
But as you said, there is a pressing need to address the current risk of contracting Covid. It's all a balance. And it's not like the drug will be approved and that's it - the FDA will be closely monitoring for adverse events (as it does for all the drugs it approves) and will make adjustments as needed.
https://news.yahoo.com/covid-19-surpasses-heart-disease-1305...
Covid surpassed heart disease
Either way heart disease is still a huge killer ands we have never looked into taking away peoples rights to tackle it.
Cardiovascular disease and cancer are basically people dying from old age. They're what people die from when they don't die from other things. At the current time, there's no compelling reason to think that a straightforward therapy could have a large affect on the outcomes of people suffering these maladies.
In contrast, Covid-19 is a virus. There is every reason to believe that an effective vaccine could dramatically reduce the deaths from this source.
There is one side that favors herd immunity (sometimes anti mask sentiment gets mixed in here, but it doesn't belong), a la the Great Barrington Declaration. They are playing fast and loose with lives, understanding that, once the wildfire rages through, causing an unprecedented loss of life, the remaining population will be genetically predisposed against the virus.
The other side is playing fast and loose with regulations in the way you just described, because of the tremendous potential loss of life if we do not.
I don't pretend these are the same, but they do have similarities. And I believe the healthy thing to do is to come to grips with that as a people and have a public conversation about it.
It's not like lockdowns have any scientific evidence, everyone just copied what China was doing. If they are effective then you would expect Peru to not have the second highest fatality rates after 8 months of strict lockdown.
Yes the strict lockdowns in Peru were ridiculous and accomplished nothing except damaging the economy and putting the country in debt. Covid still got around both during and after the cuarentena.
Shopping malls have been back to near normal capacity for quite some time, movie theaters are finally reopening with a 40% capacity limit but discos still closed. [1]
[1] https://larepublica.pe/economia/2020/12/06/se-oficializa-rea...
I thought Sweden was stupid for not locking down, but to my surprise their case numbers didn't spiral out of control. Their hospitals managed fine. At that point I reevaluated my position, but it seems I am one of the few who did. I new see the that lockdown skeptics seem a lot more data driven in their approach than pro-lockdown people, who seem to base things on assumptions and politics.
IMO, lockdown should not be a binary thing. Since things should be open. Others should probably remain closed while the infection rages. Masks, on the other hand, should be ubiquitous.
A question you may be thinking is then how can it help and the answer is in the new trick it teaches your cells to copy in those first few days, your body will remember the trick for a while, months maybe, a year hopefully, and that one cool trick is to recognize the virus so your body can do what it does with uninvited guests.
But the mRNA delivered as the vaccine is long gone, recycled back into pulp and made into new sticky post-it notes over and over.
The "trick" is the _information_ in the vaccine not the post-it note it comes on.
It is exactly what your body will try to find on it's own more or less at random when you get sick, not stumbling on the correct information in time can be fatal in this case.
If your body does find the right information to recognize the invader and you win your body will remember what worked, maybe for a while maybe forever.
This is why successful invaders will change themselves to avoid being remembered and eventually those changes will have unintended consequences (e.g. pandemic).
They say they’ve been studying this mRNA idea for decades, but yet, nothing has succeeded. Until now.
And now, we’re about to do a trial run, and inoculate 100 million Americans, and the rest of the world.