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Is Mozilla going to continue sponsoring the Rust project for the forseeable future? After letting servo out [1]

> Servo was incubated inside Mozilla, and served as the proof that important web components such as CSS and rendering could be implemented in Rust, with all its safety, concurrency and speed. Now it’s time for Servo to leave the nest!

Is there any chance they do the same with the Rust language? Either way, Mozilla has done a huge amount of work to improve the systems programming field, and created an incredible language ecosystem in Rust.

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We are still in the process of setting up the Rust Foundation, and so you'll see who's sponsoring at that point.

Hopefully it will be more open with showing where the sponsorship money goes (I hope most of it will go to developers and Rust contributors like you) than other foundations that I don't want to name here.

The foundation is being set up by the Rust team, to be clear. I think with "more open" you're suggesting that this is like, an offshoot of mofo or something.

Does this mean the "Media Guidelines" is going away? If we want to redistribute cargo or rust with some patched changes, I'd like to be able to do it without coming back and asking for trademark approval every time. Even if the resulting binary says "unofficial/unsupported build".

I can't make any particular statements about what an organization that doesn't even exist yet may or may not do with its property.

Who is "we", in this case, out of curiosity?

Any OS distribution, e.g. Debian maintainers should be asking permission to patch rust per Media Guidelines, but it doesn't always happen.

Reading the Media Guidelines, I don't see how you came to that conclusion:

> TL;DR: Most non-commercial uses of the Rust/Cargo names and logos are allowed and do not require permission; most commercial uses require permission. In either case, the most important rule is that uses of the trademarks cannot appear official or imply any endorsement by the Rust project.

https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/media-guide

From the link:

> Uses that require explicit approval

> Distributing a modified version of the Rust programming language or the Cargo package manager and calling it Rust or Cargo requires explicit, written permission from the Rust core team. We will usually allow these uses as long as the modifications are (1) relatively small and (2) very clearly communicated to end-users.

Patching for a specific architecture, distro, OS, et. all is going to result in "a modified version". You can't expect users as far down as the Debian Source DVDs to be able to submit that back to Rust for approval. Us folks using MIPS patch all the time, and redistribute binaries to help others.

Ah yes, you're totally right. I didn't realize there was quite a bit of additional content "below the fold" on that page.

I don't understand your answer completely, but I guess you know that the Mozilla execs are not the most trusted people right now by HN folks, so ,,offshot of mofo'' doesn't sound as good as Rust foundation by Rust core contributors :)

Anyways I really hope it will be successful!

What I am saying is that the Rust foundation is being set up 100% by "Rust core contributors" and not by "Mozilla execs."

Me too, and thanks :)

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