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1. Angular, React, Webpack, all these stuff add to the mess. They don't take away from it. A well organized framework can still provide a good developer experience.

2. The user experience really, really suffers from this toolchain.

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There's definitely an argument to be made about the second point. However many people accessing the SPAs have a fast enough internet connection that it's actually a better experience to download it all in one go. Also, "tens of megabytes" is a VAST exaggeration.

I'm looking at the application I'm responsible for. Downloads 3M Gzipped JS assets and takes > 250M "on initial load" and I feel sick to my stomach.

What does your build script look like?

Pretty normal webpack config. We recently changed from babel to esbuild and are very happy btw.

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