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Comment by mmachado95 | Hacker News Reader

I'm surprised you're so cynical to the point you don't trust anyone

I'm not - the government's messaging throughout the whole pandemic has been "get back to work, peon". There is absolutely no reason to believe that the two vaccines aren't more of the same. You need to work with accurate priors.

I'm not sure how the government's messaging during the pandemic affects a private company, with global shareholders, claiming efficacy of a product whose results will be plain to see for all of those shareholders. You cannot lie about your products in an open market and be successful.

Sure, we should be skeptical of the government line on the pandemic, but why should we be skeptical of a product that comes from a company whose product must work for them to make money?

I think instead of letting our previous biases in one arena influence our current decision making in another, we should look at the evidence, make an independent decision, and then loop back on that when the evidence changes. Government bad != private company creates product that doesn't work

There is no reason to believe in long-term safety, neither is there reason to believe in long-term efficacy, the vaccine is too new for that to have any good data, meanwhile the manufacturers are indemnified to the hilt. Not that there's anything wrong with vaccine indemnification, when the product is proven safe and improves public health, as the vaccines on the markets all are, but this one was rushed through at unprecedented speed.

And what's with the trust in the market to fix things? The 737-MAX crashes did not affect Boeing share price or Boeing management in any meaningful way, neither are safety problems with the new covid vaccines going to affect Pfizer or Moderna.

The vaccines on the market went through the same trial process as these new ones, just that these new ones did it quicker.

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