“Reasonable force” for values of “reasonable” that are defined by a group of people that doesn’t include me, no thanks.
“Reasonable force” for values of “reasonable” that are defined by a group of people that doesn’t include me, no thanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defense_(United_States)
In England it's got what I think is clearer definition:
"Force is reasonable if a reasonable person would think it necessary to use force and would have used the same level of force as the defendant."
As far as I'm aware these definitions apply to police officers.
This only applies to civil liability; criminal prosecution of unreasonable use of force is not affected by QI, though there are other problems with that.
There seems to be a broad based perception these days that the Police don't obey the rules regarding use of force and they are not proscuted when they break them.
This might mean that the original statement: "the police can legally ... kick the shit out of you" is technically innacurate but it is functionally accurate. The Police do not appear to large swathes of the general public to be at risk of prosecution for beating the shit out of suspects (which basically means anyone they want to).
They do, the problem is qualified immunity rules out most civil liability in practice, and relying on criminal prosecution has problems because of the relationship between prosecutors and law enforcement.