It is about the same as all deaths caused by respiratory diseases in 2019: https://www.statista.com/statistics/528942/sweden-number-of-...
It is about the same as all deaths caused by respiratory diseases in 2019: https://www.statista.com/statistics/528942/sweden-number-of-...
The wrong response is to ignore the point of the Swedish numbers specifically, even though the conclusions are painful. A reasonable conclusion isn't "oh that's terrible they're lying with statistics" and then proposing a meaningless alternative (nobody cares if COVID shifts expected mortality around by a few months, they only care about deaths that were avoidable and wouldn't have happened anyway). The correct response is to remember that Sweden was supposed to be a bloodbath in which every single hospital would be overflowing onto the streets, in which people would be collapsing unable to breathe in their hundreds of thousands whilst the rest of the world looked on in pity, safely locked down at home.
Clearly that didn't happen, which invalidates the claims of the 'experts' that said it would. When you read their papers the problems that led to these erroneous claims are very clear, but given the top rated comment on this thread it'll probably be a long time before the wider HN community is able to critically examine the deep structural flaws in the field of epidemiology. If ever.
Except it HASN'T, and nevertheless, if you wanted to make that argument, the graphs and data in OPs post do not support that argument.
This is my entire point: if you want to make an argument about some feature of the Swedish data, that's fine. For example, the argument about "shifting deaths up" is also one you might be able to make with different data sets, but certainly not what was presented in this original article. Indeed, the data on the Financial Times website shows an excess of just under 6k deaths in Sweden that has not, as of yet, resulted in some lower number of deaths later in the year.
Whether or not other countries overreacted is a fine thing to have a debate about, but that debate needs to be made around not just pulling bullshit numbers out of thin air.
https://www.aier.org/article/swedens-dry-tinder-accounts-for...
Even if your numbers were correct, you have to remember these are the numbers we have _despite_ drastic measures taken.
And of course with the amount of hand washing and social distancing going on right now, I could see how it will have affected the "normal" flu deaths.
Edit: let me just add an answer to this statement
> Clearly that didn't happen, which invalidates the claims of the 'experts' that said it would
It did happen in Italy, which forced Sweden to mobilize the whole country to avoid it. And they almost failed.