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At first glance, it looks a lot more simple than something like ncurses.

Many Linux distros are shipping .NET in the default install due to more and more apps requiring it. If something like this takes off for console apps, it's only going to improve from there.

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I agree!

With .NET Core 3.x it's possible to publish self-contained executables so there's no need to have to the runtime installed.

https://docs.microsoft.com/pt-br/dotnet/core/deploying/#publ...

Didn’t .NET (pre-“Core”) have an AOT option? Or was that not “self-contained” (as in, a runtime was still needed prior)?

Yes, used to be called Ngen

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/tools/ngen...

Ngen was never self-contained however and ngen-ed binaries were system and runtime specific. You pretty much had to assume you couldn't ship ngen-ed binaries between machines and always ngen in place on the end user's machine.

.NET Core's new AOT systems are much more capable than ngen ever was, including for static, self-contained binaries that you could potentially ship to all systems of a target architecture without shipping the non-AOT IL binaries as well.

(ETA: Which is why the vast majority of .NET software hardly ever bothered with ngen except for very specific per-machine performance needs.)

Yes, I'm aware of that, we tried to use Ngen and basically gave up, not worth the efforts.

I hope new AOT would be better

Not that I know of. When you target UWP, there’s .NET Native. That might be what you’re thinking of.

IIRC .NET Native compilation was very slow and could not target…, well, Windows, but only Windows UWP.

he's talking about ngen

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/tools/ngen...

C# is a decent language, as is F#. But their success is the droves of labor contributed by MS. In some ways it is large and not easy to integrate into a distro and forms another isolated compiler base (need C# to compile C#) that is difficult to audit.

Interesting is that they've adopted some of the lessons learned from Rust, or are trying to.

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