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Yeah, the other things Asian American small-business owners are subjected to is being the butt of violent inner-city riots supported by major political parties.

Anyone who denies this has forgotten roof Koreans and the effects that the LA riots (and that the BLM riots today) are having on Asians.

EDIT; people downvoting me need to see reality. This stuff is reported in Asian outlets all the time, but the American mainstream media will tell you sweet stories of Asian business owners 'supporting' BLM riots. You have to remember that these people, including my parents, have come from countries where it is normal to publicly say whatever you need to to appease the majority group. My mom and dad, like most Asians, will say whatever needs to be said to keep their family safe, even if they disagree. Americans do not understand Asian culture at all.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1190650.shtml

https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403231749/baltimore-unrest-re...

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/black-lives-matter-billboa...

I share this same sentiment as a Chinese American and I wouldn't be surprised if other Asians rolled their eyes at the riots that took place. No one talks about the BS that Asians have to deal with let alone know about them (i.e. affirmative action + minor minority myth = discrimination towards Asians, discrimination/crime towards Asians by blacks), but we're not gonna whine about this because that's just not what we do, we carry on working hard and not succumbing to victim mentality (i.e. when was the last time you saw an ALM organization).

Asian people don’t make an “Asian Lives Matter” because they’re not regularly targeted by police. They do however tend to lead efforts against affirmative action programs because they tend to reduce the number of Asian Americans who qualify for things. Painting this as an issue of other minorities being whiny is not a very nice characterization.

Another way to look at it is, they cannot be nicely boxed into a big voting block, so they don't get campaigns that conveniently coincide with elections and fizzle out soon after.

Asians are regularly targeted by police. Brown skinned Indians often look arab and are subject to the same racial profilings. One need only look at history (hello bellingham riots) to see rampant violence against asians that typically goes ignored due to asian cultural pragmatism.

> Yeah, the other things Asian American small-business owners are subjected to is being the butt of violent inner-city riots supported by major political parties.

Indeed. Also from the 2015 Baltimore riots: "Looters Take Everything But a Family’s Pennies / Chinese store-owners and a soldier who fought in Afghanistan both return to find their hometown transformed into a war zone." https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/34cu4j/baltimore_loote...

Political reporting is primarily about shaping current events to fit a predefined narrative. Contrary evidence is cleaved from the story if it doesn't fit the agenda.

It is hypocritical when the authors paint themselves as concerned with the plight of an identity category, but downplay negative outcomes when it contradicts their agenda. From my perspective this shows how little these supposedly compassionate voices actually care. They're simply exploiting the situation to score political points.

This isn't unique to Asian-American identity politics. If you look you can find it across the entire spectrum of identity politics. The obvious solution in my view is to concern ourselves with the plight of individuals as individuals, not members of a specific tribe. Treating individuals equally was at the core of liberalism, but today it has been overtaken by philosophies that put membership in an identity category before the individual. The outcome is predictably divisive and toxic.

> supported by major political parties

Why plural? There's only one major party in the US that did not condemn the violent riots and looting. “They’re not gonna stop. And they should not.” -- Kamala Harris, VP candidate

Was she referring to protesting or rioting, or do you think the two are inseparable?

Edit: never mind, I did my own googling. Looks like Kamala Harris did indeed condemn the rioters:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-harris-idUSK...

And the quote above was indeed referring to protesting, not rioting:

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/01/fact...

> do you think the two are inseparable?

Yes, evidently, unless you arrest and prosecute the rioters and looters, which is something "progressive" DAs refuse to do.

> did indeed condemn the rioters

If you read the article, you will see that she did not. She said that they "should not be confised" with protesters, but did not condemn them explicitly. Nor could she condemn, because the official democratic narrative is that the protests are "fiery but peaceful", which they're anything but.

A third party (libertarian) candidate also supported BLM and the riots.

Yes the United States has been historically plagued by racial injustices. If you'd like more to be listed, consider the Tulsa Race Massacre and Seneca Village. Maybe the Trail of Tears.

I don't see your great point in posting this.

Hell, IIRC, the whole Cali gun ban thing is because a certain group of white people didn't like black people legally walking on the capital with guns. Imagine if they would've wanted to make an example out of roof Koreans as well.

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