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The market (job vacancies) seem to imply otherwise, I rarely see it mentioned in comparison to Python, Go, PHP.

I think I'd rather just be a plumber that be forced to program in PHP

At least in the U.S there are more Ruby jobs than PHP, so what you're saying isn't accurate. In Europe (outside UK) Ruby is weaker I agree; php/.net seem to be way more popular.

Yeh, i'm going off London job market.

Hmm what do you base that on? I'm genuinely curious. Looking at Linkedin I see a lot of Ruby jobs in London, some in really top notch companies. To me London seems like a great place to be a Rubyist. Just for comparison's sake this is from Linkedin (London Metrpoloitan): Ruby: 1238 Node: 1940 PHP: 1332 Rust: 157 Python: 9208 Golang: 588 (might be called Go in many jobs though)

Conclusion: Ruby on par with php, less popular than Node but not by orders of magnitute, and used way less than Python. But comparing it to web development languages like PHP/Node, it's right there with them.

If anything Ruby is in bad form in mainland Europe (France, Germany, Netherlands) where for whatever reason PHP is king for startups.

Now for frameworks: Rails: 480 Laravel: 41 Django: 535 Symfony: 164

Conclusion: Rails is really up there with any other major framework. Could be that some job posts don't mention the framework, but I'm going with the data we have.

Some famous Ruby shops I know are from London: Deliveroo, GoCardless, Funding Circle, Babylon Health. I honestly don't see how this is bad.

Anecdotally I still see it listed a huge amount, as much as ever. Much of the time the apps are more than a couple of years old. I do think the number of startups who will create a new Rails application today as their primary application is much lower, but Rails work is hardly going to dry up anytime soon.

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