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And when you look at death per 1 Million population, Sweden is at 585 and France at 539, so France is doing better than Sweden… So, yeah, you can talk in absolute numbers (0-3 people a day), but sometimes it's also good to look at the percentages.

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And when you consider the probable sheer social consequences of those severe lockdowns in France, that number is absurdly little to brag about. I mean, really? 585 vs. 539? One country that maintained a policy of normalizing extreme emergency authoritarianism and extreme social isolation (with all its likely consequences to health issues both mental and physical) is only very marginally "better" than another that at least showed a willingness not to treat its citizens like cattle, and you consider this worthy of hailing for a comparison?

There are also a number of countries which have done worse than Sweden despite extreme lockdown measures, so either way, it's far too early to jump to rigid conclusions on what was justifiable for which prices.

There are not that many countries that are worse than Sweden in the pandemic numbers. And Sweden's neighbors have all done much better. Economically everyone in the EU is similar. There's still quite a bit to study but this fixation in painting Sweden as a success case is amazing. It shows up in these threads without fail.

Seems like it’s about the same as other large countries? But a bit of a weird situation since no lockdown != citizens out and about having a party. People can choose to lock themselves down

Belgium 96.36 Spain 75.2 United Kingdom 68.07 Italy 62.46 Sweden 57.85 France 53.04 Netherlands 41.27 Ireland 38.54 Romania 33.86 Luxembourg 23.95 Czechia 23.92 Portugal 23.07 Bulgaria 16.59

Copies from https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-deat... excuse the bad formatting

As you listed it's in #5 worst in 27 in the EU. How it ends up being the darling "sucess" case from the numbers beats me.

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