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Comment by justinclift | Hacker News Reader

As a motorbike rider, having Tesla's with "Full Self Driving" capability becoming common scares me.

Standard (human) car drivers are bad enough. Adding drivers that are less capable... ugh. :( :( :(

Hopefully the roll out turns out ok and I'm worrying unnecessarily. :)

Tesla’s with Autopilot on are very predictable on the freeway. They stay in the center of the lane, and signal when changing lanes. The worst part about them is they stay in the center of lane in traffic so it makes splitting lanes harder.

Many cyclists are their own-worst-enemies (excess speed, weaving in/out traffic) and I suspect it will be a very, very long time before AI is going to be able handle them.

Yeah, similar suspicion.

Would be surprised if autopilot isn't already superior to humans at avoiding cyclists. This seems like mostly an attention problem, and humans are more susceptible to not noticing the cyclist in their blind spot going into a right turn.

They may also be better. Humans can very easily be unaware of cyclists, whereas Teslas do have (a) no lapses in awareness, and (b) full view of what's around the vehicle.

afaik by the numbers you should actually be more scared of human drivers...

As I said, human drivers are already bad enough. ;)

My concern is adding something that may not even reliably recognise motorcycles.

For example, when a bike is leaning over in a turn, it looks substantially different to when it's 100% upright. And that's just one of the more common things to spring to mind.

Where are you driving where you get a substantial lean that's not a racetrack? I've not ever personally seen a motorbike that's at all leaned over.

Tesla already has recognized motorcycles for quite some time.

Literally any winding road in the mountains, of which we have quite a few around here. :)

Just to point out, (when above walking speed) motorcycles turn by leaning over. It's probably more that you've not noticed it. :)

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