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I find it rather curious that the cloud-native crowd tries to sell us containers, but cloud providers themselves use VMs.

Like, if not even AWS, Cloudflare, and fly.io use containers, how can K8s be native in any way?

I mean, that makes even Lambda, which runs on Firecracker VMs, more native than K8s.

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Most organizations don't have the multi tenant problem we do, and end up just using Docker when they do containers.

But I also think it's fair to call "Firecracker VMs" containers. Most of what those people are talking about is application packaging and deployment, not necessarily what actually runs.

For what it's worth, I am also cynical about "cloud native".

Fwiw we run as many services as we can on our own platform. Mission critical systems like our registry, api, redis servers, and much more are all running as fly apps in firecracker.

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