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I'll buy one of these. Not because of the CPU -- despite of that. Ryzen would be great but there's no thin&light Ryzen laptop with great screen and great build. Not sure why. However, apart from the performance disadvantage (that's not extremely serious), the 9310 is a great package overall (or at least I can't find anything more compelling on the market with good battery life, good screen, good docking story (TB), good keyboard, good build).

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HP Envy x360 is great. It has a 6 (real) core AMD Ryzen 5 4500U, nice screen and absurd battery life (12 hours or something ridiculously long like that). https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2020/07/18/amd-zen-2-laptop/ The single thing I don't like about it is they've overloaded the backslash/pipe key on to another key.

I don't want to buy an expensive laptop with only 16G RAM.

HP Elitebook 845/855 AMD support 32GB RAM officially, but they have 2 SODIMM slots so theoretically should support 64GB. One thing to watch out with Linux on HP laptops with AMD currently are problems with standby mode. They lack S3 deep sleep power state - only provide S2Idle so called Modern Standby. Although there are ways to mod ACPI tables there is still some black screen issue when the return from suspend happens - search stories on Reddit. I hope constantly improved Linux kernel will bring some workarounds and HP will do more Linux testing too on their quite decent HW specs.

I finally decided to go with proven option and ordered Lenovo T14 with 48GB RAM. It works flawlessly with Linux 5.8 because Lenovo added "legacy" S3 power state mode toggle in BIOS setup specially for non-Windows OSes.

48G means single channel RAM, which slows down the GPU a lot.

With Ryzen 4000, it means the first 32GB are running in dual channel and the remaining 16 are single channel.

Why not? The only thing that really eats ram is chrome tabs

I know that was trolling :) But let me answer you:

32GB+ RAM on laptop lets me run complete micro-services production-like environment (Java, VM, Docker) locally with efficient development/debug capabilities.

And that is at any place where I can get electricity and LTE/4G/3G which is enough to git pull/push or check on-line docs few times a day.

Unintentional trolling I guess. I'm just ignorant of what people use the RAM for, and reluctant to accept that our apps need this much.

I function in a data analysis role and the only place I typically get to crunch number is my own laptop.

Running a Docker container for SQL Server and doing some work with pandas will eat up my 16gb pretty easily.

There are currently very serious issues with the wd19tb docking station.

https://www.dell.com/community/XPS/XPS-13-9300-and-WD19TB-li...

This leads to random black external screens and network/usb disconnects. It is so unreliable that I stopped using it for real time communication. (Note: I have the xps 13 2-in1 2019 laptop, i7-1065G7)

There's the Thinkpad T14s. I think the screen is worse and you miss out on an easily-accessible SD card reader, but I think Lenovo tends to be more reliable than Dell build quality-wise.

I wanted that. I actually ordered it in August, then I have cancelled it recently as the shipping date kept shifting (last info was November). T14s AMD looked very good compared to the 9300 in August, but it doesn't look _that_ good in December.

T14 (not T14s) still available, about 2 weeks wait time in EU.

Thinkpad T14 Ryzen also has 400 and 500 nit build-to-order screen options.

The 400 nit panel has ridiculous amounts of ghosting (to the point where you can see it just by moving the mouse pointer), and the 500 nit panel is a “privacy” option which means worse than TN viewing angles. Unfortunately Lenovo is currently limiting the good screen to Intel for whatever reason.

Yup .. I was seriously considering buying one except for the ridiculous screen options!

The x13 has an almost acceptable screen but non-touch, and single channel ram issues if I remember right.

There just doesn't seem to be a really good ryzen laptop on the market. I'm vaguely hoping the MS surface laptop 4 releases with a nice surprise of reduced bezels and two pcie ssd slots!

The Yoga Slim 7 Pro looks great and has a color accurate retina-level display, but it seems impossible to actually buy one.

Yes, it's on my radar! I believe it's not released yet and likely to be early next year.

If you are not pressured to buy now I would advise to wait until the next year where Ryzen laptops with USB4/TB4 will hit the market.

Is the Huawei Matebook AMD edition available in your country? They are available with Ryzen processors and even better screens with a 3:2 display ratio.

They are, but the Matebook D's build quality is very far from e.g. the Matebook Pro. :(

Did they really fix the power management problems? I would be very careful running Linux on Intel laptops these days. Very happy with Ryzen.

There's going to be Thinkpad X1 Nano this December, it also looks very interesting.

The X1 carbon is lighter than the xps 13, due to not having a metal shell. I think 14 inch screen is small enough, that's just my preference of course.

I’d wait for the X1 nano. Same thing but better quality.

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