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They pulled it from all their other iPhones and kept the price the same. I think it's pretty clear it's profit for Apple.

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It's not the same price because it's not the same device.

Did Apple increase or decrease their profit per iPhone on this round? Y'know, I have no idea. I do know that trying to come to a conclusion about it on the basis of not including a charger and headphones is impossible.

> all their other iPhones

Take a look at iPhone SE's price before and after October 13th.

I wasn't aware of that, but I don't think the exception of their cheapest phone is particularly interesting or relevant.

The others dropped $100 as they usually do after an event–except they usually don't lose accessories as well.

I believe the only one that stayed the same price was the SE, the XR and 11 both dropped by $100 (but that's a normal yearly move from Apple).

But yeah, definitely boosting margins on the older phones.

Fair point. They do have a significantly upgraded radio, however. I don't remember what happened to pricing when they went from 2G to 3G or 3G to 4G/LTE, but I would not have been surprised if pricing had gone up with the 5G upgrade (in a normal economy).

That said, the AT&T/Verizon giveaway/deception is absolute garbage.

I don't have a problem with them increasing price. We don't know the cost of the changes in this version and even more so users are not entitled that Apple keep the same profit margin even if the cost is the same.

The deception though is claiming that new new phone has all these new goodies with the same price. This is effectively all these new goodies with $50 increase in price ($30 career, $20 charger).

The iPhone 12 (and Mini) also both have OLED displays rather than the iPhone 11's LCD, so it's at least plausible that there's a bit of increased BOM there as well?

> That said, the AT&T/Verizon giveaway/deception is absolute garbage.

Absolutely. :)

Motorola literally sells an Android phone for £200 with 5G. I just don't buy it.

Question is, does Motorolas offering support the mmWave frequency band? I know that the Motorola Edge+ does support those bands, however it had an introductory price of 999$ so not exactly a bargain.

The question is: what price does Motorola sell their non-5G phones for? I assume they're cheaper.

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