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Well, if the UN says it, then it must be true.

Independently of who said what, look at the facts and make up your mind.

Lots of decent, innocent people were tortured and killed because of Assange. My mind is made up.

Prior to publishing Assange worked with established reporters and US officials to ensure WikiLeaks' documents would not contain information that could be used to harm individuals prior to publishing.

The unredacted leak was put out by an unrelated third party (Cryptome).

So even if the unredacted documents did cause harm Assange would have zero responsibility for those outcomes.

[citation needed]

Whereas we don’t need a citation for the “lots of decent, innocent people” killed by trigger-happy US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, thanks to Assange that’s a historical fact.

Strangely, Assange's revelations haven't changed anything. Had they been the bombshells promised, there would be people upset, changes made. Look how different Snowden revelations were and how the public responded. Night and day, and for a reason. Freedom fighters and rabble rousers are completely different types of people with different motivations and results.

Ah, so you have no facts but you can wave your hands around a lot. That’s great to know.

There is zero evidence for that, in spite of the US government putting a large team of investigators to work trying to find an example of just this.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/afghan-leaks-expose-the-i...

There's zero evidence of torture and murder inside Chinese political prison facilities. Offenders simply disappear. Probably to all inclusive resorts since there's no evidence otherwise.

Complete, made up nonsense

Not made up. You just don't care to know.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/afghan-leaks-expose-the-i...

Actually, you may be unaware due to the lack of or low-key reporting in the MSM, but Assange didn't actually leak that information; David Leigh leaked it in his book about Assange by publishing the password (which Assange had made him swear to absolute secrecy about as a condition of giving it to him) to the encrypted unredacted document store. Then John Young published the decrypted unredacted documents on Cryptome, the day after which Wikileaks also published them in order to warn anyone involved that they had probably been compromised by the earlier leak. This has all come out during his extradition hearing, and is uncontested by those directly involved. It also came out during the hearing that the USA could not provide evidence of a single person being harmed as a result of the leak, despite spending millions on an investigation.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/09/28/guardians-dece...

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/sep/24/us-never-asked...

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