It makes me sad that we were about the evidence before but seeding the desired answers now.
It makes me sad that we were about the evidence before but seeding the desired answers now.
My country (Croatia) went from an average of ~20kg of meat per year per person (~1990s) to ~70kg of meat per year per person in 30 years. The amount of calories is obviously massively different. The mediterranean diet in Croatia is dead.
People are getting obese and getting diseases that come with obesity (heart disease, diabetes etc.). Meat is not to blame, it's people eating massive amounts of calories, living an unhealthy sedentary lifestyle.
CICO model works for healthy people. For those with metabolic disease (diabetes and similar) it might not work completely.
I do not understand how soy is then to blame for phytoestrogen content when people consume more beer in their life than soy products.
That is the only reason why I mentioned beer. I do not believe phytoestrogens have any effect on male hormones.
It's quite known that getting obese has a massive effect on male hormones. The mehanistic/metabolism effect is known. We know why obese men become infertile, why they grow breasts (gynecomastia) and all the other effects of obesity.