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>For full disclosure, most of the images I got of the protests personally were from a twitch stream called "Woke" which was a compilation stream of about usually 5-10 simultaneous protest streams from different cities. I don't think I ever once witnessed arson or another crime, despite having watched that stream ever night during the height of the protests.

Sorry, but this is classical gas-lighting. This is absolutely equivalent to saying - I saw Leni Riefenstahl's movies and there were no people dying in concentration camps, so Nazi propaganda is factually correct. There are tens of thousands of criminal acts documented during those 'peaceful' protests and I don't think that anyone with IQ >80 and the slightest bit of self-respect would ever take what you're saying seriously.

Btw, these days even far-left HN seems to be split in two and I was sure it would be one of the last bastions of group-think. I guess we live and learn.

> Sorry, but this is classical gas-lighting

I sincerely apologize if it came off that way, because it was not my intention.

I'm not trying to deny that there were crimes and arson and whatever else. They did happen, and they are inexcusable.

I am specifically making the point, that the GP had posed the answer:

> What intelligent person can cope with the dissonance of arson = peace?

My point is simply trying to add nuance: nobody is saying arson is okay, the people I talk to say things like:

"this protest I was at was OK. I left at 11 PM everything that happened while I was there was super peaceful and wholesome and people even brought their kids!"

The bifurcation comes when we start to group everything that happened all across the country into one label of "protests". There were violent protests, there were peaceful protests. There were protests that started peaceful and became violent. Sometimes there were small violent groups that were literally ousted from the larger protest group for causing trouble.

I'm not denying that there were violent protests. But I'm also not going to deny that there were a whole lot of peaceful protests.

> The bifurcation comes when we start to group everything that happened all across the country into one label of "protests".

It is interesting thought experiment to keep your sentence the same, but replace "protests" with "police."

Police brutality is wrong, full stop.

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