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A Black Hole at the Center of Earth

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Long ago, I worked at a newspaper. Occasionally we'd get letters typed on crumpled paper with faulty typewriters, or scrawled on the back of paper placemats in jagged all-caps handwriting. They'd breathlessly lay out elaborate theories about the horrifying secrets of our world. Invariably, elements of science fiction would be woven in. The return addresses, if they existed, were often of the local mental hospital, or prison.

One of the letters was written with such physical force that I could feel all the words from the other side of the paper, like raised print. In that moment I felt enormous pity for these people, and perhaps a bit afraid of them, too.

This paper looks like computer-generated gibberish, with some hilarious phrases in it:

"This dark part of DNA called as a dark DNA in an extra dimension"

"DNAs are contracted at least four times around various axis's and waves of earth couldn't read their information. "

"Thus, the earth is the biggest system of telecommunication which connects DNAs, dark DNAs and molecules of water"

But what kills me is that it has diagrams: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31850126/#&gid=article-figur...

I love this one: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31850126/#&gid=article-figur...

So apparently a Circle + H20 = DNA + Dark DNA + H20 + A wave!

I must have missed that particular algebraic relation in my physics classes.

This paper is actually an excellent method for revealing glaring flaws in the scientific publishing system: The other "co-authors" have many perfectly legitimate looking papers on the site. Clearly someone included their name as a joke, without their authorisation.

Similarly, there's no way to tell who actually submitted the paper, because it has a list of names only, no "primary" author.

Most importantly, this clearly bogus paper is on a government medical paper publishing site. Who's curating these? Why is such utter gibberish allowed on the site? Why hasn't it been cleaned up after nearly a year? Where's the "report abuse" button? Where's the "comments" section with people ridiculing this monstrosity?

Nowhere to be found.

That's because the scientific publishing process still pretends that computers don't exist, that papers are printed on dead trees, and feedback is via "letters to the editor" in some vaguely related quarterly publication.

We all go to sites like Reddit or YC News precisely because bullshit is often called out right away by at least one or two commenters.

Why is this "not a thing" on PubMed, or ArXiV, or any similar site?

I'd chalk a lot of that up to automated language translation, to be fair.

What does automated language translation have to do with the fact that they don't have a comments section or a "report abuse" button?

A little background on Massimo Fioranelli and Alireza Sepehri:

https://twitter.com/microbiomdigest/status/12886848640702504...

https://scienceintegritydigest.com/2019/06/01/an-astrophysic...

From another quality publication by the lead author:

"In this research, we show that 5G millimeter waves could be absorbed by dermatologic cells acting like antennas, transferred to other cells and play the main role in producing Coronaviruses in biological cells."

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343019053_5G_Techno...

The surest litmus test is the quality of the figures in a paper.

Like what is this graph? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6910781/figure/...

I mean, everyone understands what it means when a paper labels the x-axis of a graph as 'size of DNA-like structure compacted in core in terms of size of earth'.

Yeah - no error bars? That's just crazy.

Best figure from a black hole paper is surely Scholtz and Unwin, page 5: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1909.11090.pdf

I was sort of into the term 'black brane' then I saw figure 1 and closed the tab.

Not a scientist. The text is so farfetched that even being generated by GPT-3 seems out of the question.

GPT-3 would almost certainly have better grammar.

This week on "Hacker News after dark"...

This is a wild ride. I cannot tell if a more accurate translation would make the ride wilder or less wild.

A tweet thread and an article on this author

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24562496

https://scienceintegritydigest.com/2019/06/01/an-astrophysic...

WTF? Is this an elaborate joke like the Sokal affair or are those dermatologists actually serious?

At first I thought it was yet another experiment that generates nonsense papers to show which journals will accept just about anything, but after running a quick search on some of the authors (https://pubpeer.com/search?q=Massimo+Fioranelli) seems like some sort of academic SEO/backlink/reference/paper mill operation going on?

Would be fascinating to map the cross referencing and co-author graph here.

Some of the comments on pubpeer are hilarious.

Let me be honest: I genuinely cannot tell from the title and abstract if this paper is meant to be a shitpost or an expression of severe mental illness.

But it reminds me of TimeCube.

What the fuck is this. I thought it was some particularly imaginative science fiction until I did a double-take at the domain name.

Seriously, whats going on here?

The paper was published in the Open Access Macedonian Journal of Medical Sciences, which is among the thousands of biomedical journals indexed by the National Library of Medicine in its PubMed service, which provides abstracts of the content.

I’m not qualified to assess their quality, but the latest issue of the same journal seems to have papers with more conventional medical themes:

https://www.id-press.eu/mjms/issue/view/191

The related papers include another paper by the same author that is similarly incomprehensible.

"Formation of Neural Circuits in an Expanded Version of Darwin's Theory: Effects of DNAs in Extra Dimensions and within the Earth's Core on Neural Networks"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31850135/

This is the same author that brought us "5G Technology and induction of coronavirus in skin cells."

GPT-3, is that you?

Excuse me, that's "Microsoft GPT-3" to you, buddy.

our startup? our vision is to be the uber of Black Hole at the Center of Earth playing the Role of the Biggest System of Telecommunication for Connecting DNAs, Dark DNAs and Molecules of Water on 4+N- Dimensional Manifold.

What? I'm going with a crackpot version of Poe's Law. Any sufficiently advanced parody of pseudoscience is indistinguishable from the real thing.

Is this paper for real? Can anyone give context? It seems so far out of left field that it is unbelievable it was published. Is this genius or malarkey?

It's real in the sense that someone put those words into an open access Macedonian medical science journal.

But this is not physically real:

> This means that molecules of water could have gender like DNAs. On the other hand, the earth could emit some special waves to molecules of water and extract DNA black brane from extra dimensions. This could be the origin of life on earth. Thus, earth, water and DNA form the best system of telecommunication which controls all evolutions of life.

Ah, right. I forgot that trolling scientific publications was a thing now-a-days. Shame on me.

I’m pretty sure this was generated with GTP-0 because it’s garbage.

So how do we kill this thing? Does Earth have any exhaust ports?

I feel less smart for having spent 2 minutes to read it.

My brain hurts

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