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I was gonna buy a new DOCSIS 3.1 netgear modem for my gigabit service. Guess I won't be doing that now. I'm tired of this type of bullshit.

It's exactly why I'm leaning really heavily towards Mikrotik for all of my networking gear at home. These types of devices are user hostile, bad for the environment, and set a precedent for a type of world we shouldn't want to live in.

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There's really no better choice than Arris SURFboard if you want a DOCSIS bridge that just sits there and works all the time.

Yea, that's what I'm leaning toward at the moment. I already have a Cisco 2921 router and cisco switches in various places throughout my house.

So something dumb and performant is what I want. What I liked about the netgear modems is they do have models with a router built in without it being wifi which I would like to use as a failover. But I'll just keep my 2921 around as a failover if my new mikrotik router fails for some reason.

LOL. NO.

Arris (formerly Motorola) modems have a overheating reliability issue. Especially the Surfboard ones you like. SB6666

Go search online. You'll see.

I've had a number of them do this, and so I avoid their stuff.

Anecdotally my Arris SURFboard units have just sat in the dark and served perfectly, except that I had to replace one to get higher DOCSIS speeds. Maybe the overheating has something to do with local cable plant conditions from which I don't suffer?

This is true, they definitely do have an overheating issue. That's why I was looking at other modems aside from upgrading my service.

But I do plan on modding mine so it's not something I specifically would run into.

The Arris box I currently have is a PITA to use. It takes several seconds to navigate between pages and its extremely illogical. I was just going to see if I can flash it with Openwrt or dd-wrt because it's just unusable.

I don't know if you realise it or not but "PITA" is almost the perfect expression to use for networking equipment by the name of "Arris":

" Jonathon Green, a British slang lexicographer who authored The Vulgar Tongue: Green's History of Slang, told me that his favorite rhyming slang word is "arris," which means ass, because it actually goes through more than one round of partially-dropped rhyming. "Arris," he said, is short for "Aristotle," which rhymes with "bottle," which itself is the first half of the phrase "bottles and glass," which rhymes with "ass." So in rhyming slang, "I'll put my foot up your arris" means "I'll put my foot up your ass" "

from https://www.vox.com/2015/2/16/8045999/cockney-rhyming-slang-...

Since he's British it should be "which rhymes with "arse", glass only rhymes with ass in the north of England and beyond, and even there they'd prefer arse over ass (a turn of phrase I hope to never use or see again!)

Can't get the journalists nowadays.

Ha yeah I suspect he's aware of the pronunciation differences but kept it that way for simplicity's sake.

Also I'm so sorry but "arse over ass" made me laugh and has kinda imprinted on me, so I'm gonna remember whenever I see "brigandish" in HN comments :-D

I was referring to the cable bridges, not the ones that have wifi and all that. For example the SB6183. I don't think it's smart to get integrated cable+wifi because the wifi stuff evolves very rapidly and the cable stuff evolves hardly ever.

I use mikrotik switches and run openwrt on them. rb2011 series and one rb750gl.

I am also in the market for a docsis 3.1 modem. What are you going for?

Well, I'm running a SB6190 right now. I guess I'm going to go with either an SB8200 or a motorolla MB8600.

One thing I like about the SB8200 is that if I ever go back to running a "business" connection at home I can have a second IP assigned to the second WAN port it has.

I also plan on modifying the modem to fit into my network rack without a shelf like so: https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/ft579e/finally_got...

So the actual internal matter a little bit to me as well.

Be aware the SB8200 runs a Puma chipset. For all I know modern versions of this chipset on modems are OK now, but I have a headache that will probably never going away trying to work around latency and DOS issues with one of these in a situation where I couldn't change out the DOCSIS modem for reasons that were out of my control.

It's in my "never touch again for any reason" bucket now as a result.

Incorrect, the SB8200 has a Broadcom BCM3390: http://en.techinfodepot.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Arris_SB8200

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