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Well, it happens but rarely does it happen exclusively in the West where there is a lot at stake. (Would be interested in counterexamples)

International law, as an attempt to tame excesses of diplomacy, is something that has lifted up the West. It's brought order and prosperity. This move is yet another jenga brick taken out of the liberal West, thereby weakening the EU. The EU really needs to bother...

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Just googling for:

France breaks international law https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181017-amnesty-france-vi...

Spain breaks international law: https://www.icj.org/spain-conviction-of-catalonian-leaders-v...

Poland breaks international law https://www.ecre.org/human-rights-organisations-poland-viola...

I don't think I need to search for any about USA, each of us remembers at least 5 from very recent history.

The very important difference being that these countries did not explicitly say: "We will break international law". You might think that's a technicality but in international law that's really an important distinction.

I mean I did explicitly say the West vs the West. And self-determination is definitely a special case so none of these apply.

Again, the US vs the West?

I'd be surprised if its never happened. But the ensuing uproar is part of the politics - It's an extra hurdle for countries in a political maneuver. And a broadly positive hurdle.

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