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Google definitely could of created a research laboratory. Wasnt it not long ago that companies would invest a lot more money on research? That was why we got so many impressive projects out of Bell Labs and I am sure other companies. Its a shame that horse race ended.

Whats worse is Google wants all their software to be as intangible as possible by forcing it all on their servers. Google hasnt had many desktop apps you can use without their servers involved in a long time. I dont consider Chrome a desktop app since it is their own OS and the new IE based on its hostility on the web to build up a Google Monopoly.

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Google and Microsoft do a lot of interesting research. Waymo is a good example.

I'm not sure what Apple does.

My issue with big tech is not lack of innovation or research, but rather that it's all private. We're driving people out orgs that share their research with the world and into ones that lock it away.

I think Apples research is seeing what happens when you sit on a quarter of a trillion dollars. Without veering far off topic. I don't think apple really has a culture of innovation anymore. Each rectangle looks the same. Remember when nokia had all their crazy feature phones. Taking a 30% cut on apps isn't that.

I’m not defending Apple, but I disagree that adding features is the same as innovation. I wish the tech industry would focus on quality over quantity.

It seems Apple isn't on the bleeding edge anymore, but rather they take what is already out there and make the best possible version of it and knock it out of the park.

Take Airpods or FaceID, Apple was not the first to innovate in the headphone space or in the face unlock space. But when they did eventually come out with their own version, that version is miles ahead of the competition.

Apple makes money by selling to the masses. They let others waste cycles on the bleeding edge and learn from their mistakes.

Counterpoint - A Series Chips. And now MacBooks on Apple Silicon

That’s not research. That’s just vertical integration development.

Bell Labs invented the transistor!

Researchers working at Bell Labs are credited with the development of radio astronomy, the transistor, the laser, the photovoltaic cell, the charge-coupled device (CCD), information theory, the Unix operating system, and the programming languages B, C, C++, and S.

Source: Wikipedia page on Bell Labs.

Yes, google does research but not the basic fundamental research that isn’t immediately a product to be sold.

Let's not be silly, we all know AMP is a way bigger innovation than all of that combined....

In all seriousness, it's very sad how impotent US research has become. Only a few companies and individuals truly pushing the envelope these days (e.g. Musk).

This. At least from my understanding Bell Labs and PARC published papers continuously (I’ve read many over the years, not sure how much got published vs not).

> could of

I am not a grammar nazi. I am not even a fucking native English speaker, but what the fuck??? Why is this mistake so prevalent these days?

Many people contract "could have" to be "could've" which when spoken can very easily turn to "could of"

Yes, but this means that you don't understand the meaning of simple words. Doesn't that bother you?

Grammar nazi.

Since we're being pedantic, "Nazi" is always capitalized.

Regarding the capitalization of "N/nazi" People seem to disagree with you: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/73948/grammar-na...

Regarding being pedantic: well, I'm not sure what to say. I think confusing "could of" with "could have" is a fundamental, terrible mistake. I guess one person's permissiveness is another's idiocracy?

Oxford dictionary confirms it’s a proper noun: https://www.lexico.com/definition/nazi

No need for StackOverflow conspiracies if we’re lecturing Internet people.

Pointing out that it is becoming a common mistake to confuse the verb "to have" with the preposition "of" -> pedantic!

Failing to capitalize "Nazi" according to what the Oxford dictionary thinks is best for a contraction of two German words -> HAHAHAH! You were being a grammar nazi, but ironically you failed to capitalize Nazi correctly.

Ok. You win. I should of known better!

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