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There’s reason to be skeptical.

From a local Portland journalist covering the protests:

https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1302284883625046016?s=21

“ Not that I want to legitimize this @reason piece, but I have filmed copious moments of ppl throwing things at police/vandalizing bldgs/etc & have never been told I’m not allowed to film. I have never heard of the so-called “IPC.” The lack of sourcing in this story shows.”

https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1302295695194386432?s=21

“ Also, worth noting that this piece is by Nancy Rommelmann. Background:

https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/01/11/25469480... “

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Apparently @alex_zee is no objective observer and has participated in disinformation.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300617725354504192

Neither is Andy Ngo.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo

Sure, but that doesn't invalidate the tweet which is factual, not opinion based, and easily verifiable.

Whereas Zee's tweet relies solely on us to trust him.

This Andy Ngo?

https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-...

Oh Salon, that bastion of levelheaded, fact first reporting. /s

He was considered left-wing until he dared to report what he saw, refusing to censor it for the benefit of Antifa. That sounds like a reputable journalist to me.

No there isn’t. There is documented video of this happening. It may not happen to every single journalist but that doesn’t mean it is not happening. Antifa is very organized and they specifically look for journalists they do not like.

> Antifa is very organized

Maybe in some places, there may be some groups that seem so. But given the evidence I've seen near me, 'organized' would be too strong a word. They're more 'middle-class white kids looking to get their faces punched', at least around here.

Please post a link to these videos. I was surprised I couldn't find any in OP.

Here are two:

https://twitter.com/AlphaNewsMN/status/1298352487603286016

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2020/08/20/black-li...

The video I saw was on a live stream. A cursory searched turned up this thread from a WaPo reporter though that includes photos and videos of this happening in DC:

https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/status/130241080065357824...

That's pretty expected though: if you're on somebody's side, they're usually not treating you as an enemy (not getting on any lists!), won't try to stop you from filming and generally treat you nicely.

This is probably the most important comment in this whole thread.

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