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Notch is said to be a deeply unhappy person, or at least he was a few years ago. He also made a hard right-wing turn.

https://money.cnn.com/2015/08/31/technology/minecraft-creato...

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/04/online-conduct-leaves...

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Please don't put ideological flamebait into HN threads like this. It leads to ideological flamewars.

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(We've detached this thread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24376865).

>He also made a hard right-wing turn.

Is that problematic in and of itself?

Yes.

Stop thinking thoughts I don’t like!!

He still believes in the QAnon and PizzaGate conspiracy. That is kind of “problematic”.

Unfortunately this doesn't seem as unfounded as I had initially thought: https://web.archive.org/web/20200118060902if_/https://twitte...

Yet I couldn't clearly claim that he does on the basis of this, as it's just confusing to me, no sure whether that's his flavor of irony. Do you have some more evidence to prove that he believes these things? I had previously seen him as weird and provocative, but not definitely right-wing.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Notch

It isn't problematic, just silly. There is no need to police other people's thoughts as long as they keep within the bounds of the law. He is even free to express those thoughts, within the bounds of the law, just like people are free to hollder 'death to America' during demonstrations in Oakland. One of the pillars of a well-functioning state is that things which are not forbidden by law are allowed. It might not be wise, it might not be smart, it might sound stupid (Qanon) or reprehensible (death to America) but it is allowed.

I'm confused, you started the argument off by claiming that spreading PizzaGate isn't problematic and then went into a series of arguments for why it should be legal? Can legal things not be problematic?

I'm confused by your confusion given the fact that I clearly stated that whatever someone says has to be within the bounds of the law. As far as I can see there is no room for confusion here, freedom of expression is bounded by certain laws which forbid a number of things. As long as you don't violate those laws you can say whatever you want.

Some people still think Trump is a Russian agent, on account of 3 years of conspiracy theories being promoted by the left wing media and their loyalists in the CIA and FBI. That's extremely problematic. QAnon and PizzaGate are fringe at best (and its not entirely clear how consequential they are), but probably half the country still does not realize that the Obama administration (and its loyalists) illegally spied on the Trump campaign, entrapped members of Trump admin (General Flynn), and did worse than Nixon could have ever dreamed of.

I'm not sure I understand your point?

People like to magnify fringe conspiracies while completely ignoring mainstream ones, when the mainstream ones are actually dangerous for democracy. The police power of government was leveraged against a political rival for explicit political reasons and no one has been punished for it. Extremely dangerous precedent.

Thta's not what was being discussed, though.

Yes, it's called a segue. Original topic was Larry Page and neither Q nor pizzagate have anything to do with him.

> A Microsoft spokesperson told Variety that the reason for his exclusion is the "comments and opinions" Persson has expressed on Twitter, saying that they "do not reflect those of Microsoft or Mojang, and are not representative of Minecraft."

Apparently you're only allowed to have freedom of speech if it fits in the tech left narrative. Show me an example of a extremist left person being denied access to a company event, let alone the founder of the company? Seems downright hypocritical to me.

I've met several people involved in union organizing at household name tech companies who have been disciplined by the companies they work for for exercising their "free speech" rights. You don't mean "tech left" here, you mean "liberal".

They're talking about the variety of "left" endorsed by tech companies; of course that doesn't include organizing unions.

organizing unions against your employer is not free speech. Mojang was on social media and got blacklisted (cancel culture), completely different.

It's actually an activity protected by law.

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