The problem with police violence is an extension of this. Police training is directed at control and overwhelming force. Even when there is an alternative path to de-escalate. When you are being attacked, even if you just committed a crime and the attacker is a police officer, your instinct is to fight back. The result is continued escalation until someone is dead.
Reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Shoulan_v._Peng_Yu - same ethic of "if it wasn't his property, he must have been looking for trouble"; If that's the case every out-of-town protest/rioter is also an instigator.
Truth is, we don't know what preceded Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse, and until we do, we don't know who threw the first punch.
> The police are there to deal with it
last I heard the US police have no duty to protect. Until this is changed, people will be in no hurry to surrender the right to bear arms.
Not in any way. That is a debate over Good Samaritans helping vs not getting involved. This is about vigilantes showing up with assault rifles when the police are already there.
Obviously there is a lot we don't know and the case may reveal more facts we are unaware of.
"The complaint claims that cell phone video showed Rosenbaum, who appeared to be unarmed, trailing behind Rittenhouse before throwing a plastic bag at him. As the pair approached a car, a loud bang is heard, followed by an unidentified male yelling an obscenity. When Rosenbaum gets close to Rittenhouse, another four bangs are heard."
The widely circulated video is of people trying to disarm.him after he killed the first person.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooti...
For balance here is Kyle's lawyers statement on the incident where he claims one of his pursuers lunged at him to try and take his rifle and that was the reason for the first shooting:
https://wkow.com/2020/08/28/attorneys-say-accused-kenosha-sh...
> As Kyle proceeded towards the second mechanic’s shop, he was accosted by multiple rioters who recognized that he had been attempting to protect a business the mob wanted to destroy. This outraged the rioters and created a mob now determined to hurt Kyle. They began chasing him down. Kyle attempted to get away, but he could not do so quickly enough. Upon the sound of a gunshot behind him, Kyle turned and was immediately faced with an attacker lunging towards him and reaching for his rifle. He reacted instantaneously and justifiably with his weapon to protect himself, firing and striking the attacker.
Note that this is after the bag was thrown - the person who threw it continued to chase the shooter and was within contact distance.
Apologies for the domain. This is a heavily politicized event, and YouTube seems to be taking down the videos.
According to lawyer statement[0] he turned after hearing a gunshot behind him, and then shot as the first person lunged at him.
I see no evidence the mob of people chasing him were trying to "disarm" him, in fact the third person shot was pretty clearly trying to shoot him.
[0]: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kyle-rittenhouses-lawy...