Americans killed a million muslims and destroyed their homeland. China imprisoned a million muslims and put them in factories. Stop being so dramatic.
I don't know about you, but even if the government does not have a legitimate democratic mandate, it still has a larger say than a foreign country. Especially if you consider that the USA isn't exactly a shining example of a functioning democracy.
2. It makes 0 difference morally whether you’re targeting domestic or foreign civilians
3. America starves civilian populations outside formal states of war. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8. This is the visible tip of the iceberg
Where is the equivalent outcry? Why is the country we’re discussing here always China?
That’s the selective outrage.
Whenever BuzzFeed or any news company talks about ICE detention or US prisons, they make it very obvious when they talk about current people being detained and the total population that had been detained.
Second, if the USA killed a million muslims, does that make it right that China does it as well? I don't think it does.
Second, discrimination or racism is never right, but the arguments related to Xinjiang prisons are being used to drum up popular support for a [cold] war against China. We have a duty to speak out against our leaders, so that we can prevent tragic mistakes being made.
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II:
“genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”
“Mass incarceration” with children forcibly transferred to boarding schools run by people outside of the group and “brainwashing”, together, seem to qualify for (b), (c), (d), (e), even if (a) is missing.
Americans might have conveniently forgot what was happening in the world between the years 2001-2011, but the world hasn't.
The 1 million estimate seems to be a major outlier. Yes 100 thousand is still very terrible, but that's probably a more accurate number.
We in Europe should be more vocal about what US and China think they can do to the rest of the world without consequences. China is an awful country, we just have to look at what they did in Tibet, for the last 40 years... there is nothing new.
European country are currently doing nothing and this is despicable, my country being the worst, we just discovered that Chinese police officer are invited here to identify potential Chinese to send back to China... the moral standpoint is very weak, and only facts matter.
Switzerland, for those wondering: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/swiss-explore-renewal-...
What country is this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
This makes it faster for you to refute their point, especially in front of other people who might be convinced by this argument at first.
Consider the impact of all the regime change operations undertaken under the patronage of the United States in countries like Iraq, Lybia, Syria and Yemen, as well as devastating effects of economic sanctions on Iran, Syria and other nations.
Still annoying comparison and whataboutism.