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The Bible even combines the two:

God exists outside time and space (is infinite) and created the universe by calling a potential into form.

Which of course still has the issue of infinity: where did God come from? And even: what does it mean to not be limited by time and space.

IIRC 'eternal' used to imply both outside time and outside space; this was an everyday understanding 300 years ago, say.

According to this[1] 'eternal' is now ambiguous enough to suggest either "outside of time and space" or "persistent through all time."

On nested-simulation views I suppose it becomes necessary to clarify which clock domain(s) we are talking about, in terms of persistence or time.

That is the thesis, is it not? The uncaused cause; /the/ axiom.