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Having moved back to Vancouver for a few weeks it's honestly so refreshing to, be back. Living in SF for a few years kind of makes you forget what being in a half functioning city is like. It's safer, it's cleaner, the people friendlier, the discourse less polarized/toxic, and the public transit isn't garbage.

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Better weather this time of year too. Public transportation seems to work better in Canada due to a greater willingness to make use of buses. Lots of people in the US who are in favor of mass transit will only use rail based transit, making the last mile problem troublesome. Buses feeding into the SkyTrain helps solve much of this problem.

Yes, I already feel this despite not having moved out of the SFBA yet. I miss more dense cities with functional transit systems and fewer on-the-street issues. Still planning to stay here long term to save extra money. But as soon as I hit my number, I’m moving out of this disaster in urban planning; there’s just no future here.

Yeah. Turns out people don't just pack up their lives and leave without reason. ️

Transit/zoning/policing is only half the story though IMO. The other half is just how toxic a lot of the discourse here is. There seems to be an especially strong preference here for private reason over public reason that I think underpins much of the social issues here between rose tinted nostalgia for bygone area, strong nativism and exclusionary localism that IMO is quite MAGA-esque.

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