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I loved Firefox Send and really hope they can find a way to address the malware problem [1]. It was the only large file sharing service I fully trusted both because of the encrypted zero-knowledge aspect of the system and the organization behind it; I used it several times a month personally and told others about it. To me it was a "win" under the Mozilla/FF brand.

[1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-suspends-firefox-send-...

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I like https://github.com/warner/magic-wormhole as an alternative.

also https://github.com/schollz/croc

Thanks for sharing, looks really cool.

Neat. Honestly a single binary is a major selling point for me. :-)

This is a single binary that is compatible with the python magic wormhole: https://github.com/psanford/wormhole-william

I think they have rather different use cases. FFsend is asynchronous because I don't have to be online for my friend to download the file. But it's also less trustworthy than a system based on PAKE. And if you're sending a file to a Windows or Mac user with average technical ability, Wormhole is basically not an option at present.

Wow, that’s a bummer. I used Send semi-regularly over the past year, and recommended it to colleagues. By coincidence, I haven’t needed it since early summer.

How are they supposed to address the malware problem without making significant changes to the system? “Just add abuse reporting” sounds expensive, in terms of moderation. And there’s still the reputational risk of having God-knows-what encrypted content served through a subdomain of firefox.com. While I liked being able to share trusted URLs, something tells me that ain’t coming back.

I tried to use it recently and found it had been taken down. I was puzzled as to why they would do that, but didn't dig into it - now I know, thanks!

Yah, I really liked it. Have you found any other similar services that have a web ui (other commenters have shared similar CLI-based tools)? I loved using it to share stuff with my less technically-savvy friends and family.

I too used Firefox Send quite a bit and told others about it.

I love Send too! Didn’t know they took it down.

Since this is so useful, and has operational costs because they have to run a server, could they solve two problems in one go by just charging money for it? Like $10/year or something tiny. Bet the malware issue would go way down.

Yeah, I agree. I offered on Twitter to pay a "small amount yearly" but my tweet was just a single random data point on Twitter. Hopefully some folks reading this who work at Mozilla or know someone who does, will pass on that a non-trivial people spoke up to say they got real value out of Send.

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