This kind of propaganda from the West is something China cannot learn.
The first is a positive assertion I'm acertaining because you stated this is Western Propaganda. If this is true, better start looking for evidence of this operation, because a single assumption that phones can't possibly get in is a pretty tenuous basis to create this positive assertion.
Here is the link and explanation of the video https://medium.com/@sunfeiyang/breaking-down-the-bbcs-visit-...
So what strong evidence does this article have? A few photos and two screenshots of the chat. This is too easy to forge and can't explain much.
I propose a hypothesis: the protagonist once had a job, but he was arrested for selling marijuana (mentioned in the article). After he was released from prison, he could not find a decent job, because companies are generally unwilling to recruit people with criminal records. When he was facing financial pressure, the BBC approached him and asked him to take a few photos (and some props), then forged some chat records to help make up stories. Now he has a new job, BBC actor.
I think this hypothesis is likely to be true, but I will soon be labeled as a brainwashed person or a robot. I saw that many people here saw the BBC report, and instead of thinking about its authenticity, they directly began to scold how bad the CCP was, and then downvote all different opinions. I found it ridiculous.
I can't imagine how the prisoner got a phone, so I don't believe this was filmed in prison.
The point is not whether he was arrested or not, but he accused the CCP of torturing Uyghurs. This is completely illogical. China has 56 ethnic groups, and all of them are Chinese nationals. Torturing will only cause resistance, and the CCP has no reason to do such things that are not conducive to stability.
The reasonable explanation is that some Western countries hope to create an image of the CCP abusing Uyghurs and then sanction China.
I'm from Germany, this looks exactly like the thing we reiterate 'never again' on. What would you have done, looking at Germany in 1940? The sad truth is, most people would do nothing, and that is something we try to work against.
FMRPC once publicly invited Pompeo to visit Xinjiang. (You can use Google Translate to read) https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/web/fyrbt_673021/t1798202.shtml
As mentioned earlier, the BBC visited the education camp, but found no evidence of abuse and had to use filters and editing techniques to instill ideas into the audience.
I understand the country of China to be a great nation of many achievements and many internal challenges that I cannot begin to understand. Just.. this looks very similar to the greatest horrible mistake my country and ancestors committed, a grave crime against us all as humanity that must be prevented everywhere. It's a slope, you don't start with the death camps. (Have a look at our history, if you will [0].) Things like this need to be stopped as early as possible, it will only become harder. It is not becoming of any nation to have something like this in their history, doubly so if they're such a great nation with long past and achievements.
1. The burden of proof shall be borne by who making the claim. I have pointed out that the evidence in this article is very easy to forge and not convincing. It is not to look for evidence that abuse does not exist, but to provide evidence that abuse exists.
2. The mistakes made by Western countries do not mean that China will make the same mistakes. Everyone here has learned about German concentration camps from middle school textbooks, so there is no need to introduce it to me.
Western media often use these two mistakes to fabricate lies that have no evidence but are easy for people in the Western world to believe.
In this thread, I have seen people angry and threatening to retaliate against China, which is very dangerous to the whole world. I understand that your post is out of good intentions, please take my post as a kind warning:
Two Minutes Hate in the novel "1984" appeared.
2. No, of course not. But someone will make the same mistake at some point, because it is human. We need to stay vigilant. This kind of thing can happen again and again all over the world.
> In this thread, I have seen people angry and threatening to retaliate against China, which is very dangerous to the whole world.
I agree that this is very dangerous. Then again, I don't believe anything drastic will happen as long as China does not outright start a war, which hopefully I'm right about not happening (which is what did not occur in Germany - if not for that the Nazis might still be in power).
Thank you for the warning, I'll keep it in mind. Hate is far from our general sentiment about it for me and the people around me though. You don't need to be an evil hated person or group to allow this to happen, as I said, it's human. And again, China even recently did some great things, such as lifting large parts of its population out of dire poverty, which is an amazing feat.
I wonder though, how are you so sure it's fine?
The CCP leadership may intend prison to be places of transformation instilling a sense of gratefulness for the CCP's benevolent rule, thus requiring prisoners to be treated well, kept in good health, provided with a good education so they will be able to earn a living after release doing honest work rather than having to work as actors or whatever...
But that costs a lot to implement and who's going to implement it? Inexperienced prison guards who were just recently hired when the state increased it's security budget in Xinjiang and who didn't go to a police academy where they learn fancy stuff like "torturing people may make them rat out their friends and earn you a promotion for making your arrest quota, but in the long term it fuels resentment and destabilizes the country, so don't do it" since there aren't enough of those graduating each year, and you may recall that the whole reason re-education is even necessary is that the education system in Xinjiang failed to properly instill Socialist Values like patriotism and democracy and so on, so why would it have succeeded at instilling the idea that torture is bad?
Actually, even if they all had college degrees that wouldn't completely curb abuse, since driving children to suicide https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/BRYqWk0GGaGZGkI1S9EGRg or torturing them with electric shocks https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%B1%AB%E7%AB%A0%E4%B9%A6%E9... is also illogical, yet presumably college-educated teachers still did it.
Also, cell phones tend to work anyway there’s cell coverage.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zngpz4/prison-phones-that...
>A few days later, the prisoners were loaded onto minibuses and sent away to an unknown location.
It would be trivially easy to strip out the meta data and geo-locate his location to match buildings across to see if it's an actual detention site. But naw, unknown location and unverifiable documents. The sad thing is the psyops aren't very good, the audience is just that stupid.
Edit: just to clarify, the camps exist. But any article that requires Zenz for substantiation should be by default discredited. The bar for ascertaining the scope of the camps is not difficult, just geospatially catalogue all 1,200 camps Zenz claims to exist. US + allies clearly have the resources and Trump already leaked USA224 capabilities. The fact that MSM has to repeatedly use Zenz commentary is incredibly telling. Also ignore millions of social media posts from XJ showing facts on the ground. At least they talked to Darren Byler this time.
Edit: OK strictly it is not operated directly by the military, but by an intelligence organisation. The line here is a bit blurry though, as the imagery is clearly used for military purposes.
We're _3+ years_ into this thing and it seems like western interests have zero incentive to have a proper accounting of the situation, which is getting unalterably suspicious. Instead consistently rely on atrocity porn from interviewees who change testimonies and quotes from Zenz or other biased reporting. i.e ASPI also did study on Uyghur for sale, but omits context that the lowest compensation they could find basically extrapolates to entry level wage at Foxconn and significantly higher than backwater prefectures (Hotan) prisoners are from.
If the "somewhere in between" narrative between mass genocide and just re-education / vocational training camps is: less than 0.1% of China is being forcefully indoctrinated for lower middle class wages, then the entire western muh "human rights" campaign collapses. So here's more Zenz, non-compelling testimony, previously debunked organ harvesting / holocaust claims so susceptible western audiences can project their own Godwin law delusions onto. Also XJ is a blackbox, except the social media flowing out of it that we won't report on. Otherwise what's happening in XJ is just boring cultural genocide with more cameras and spread sheets, which to be blunt, is geopolitically unactionable.