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Daily deaths have been very low in Sweden since July 11. No more 2 more weeks.
Sweden, a country of 10.1 million people, in which annual all-cause mortality is around 93,000, is currently reporting a total of 5,743 "COVID-19 deaths" (using a very broad counting standard whereby anyone who dies within 30 days of a COVID-19 diagnosis is counted as a "COVID-19 death," irrespective of the actual cause of death). Of those 5,743 "COVID-19 deaths":
Almost 90% (89.1%) were over the age of 70 Over two-thirds (67.6%) were over the age of 80 Only 71 deaths (1.2%) were under the age of 50 Only 1 death was under the age of 20 [1]
In the US, around 80.3% of deaths have been individuals aged 65 or older whereas in Sweden, around 89.1% of deaths have been individuals aged 70 or older. [1]
In the US, only around 2.64% of deaths have been individuals under age 45 whereas in Sweden only around 1.26% of deaths have been individuals under age 50. [3]
Sweden is currently reporting an overall death rate of 556 deaths / 1 M population which is higher than the current US figure of 433 deaths / 1 M population. But Sweden's population is older. Around 20% of Swedes are 65+ versus only around 15% for the US. The size of a country's 65+ population is a reasonable proxy for the size of its vulnerable population in view of the fact that the vast majority of deaths have come from individuals 65 or older. If we calculate total deaths (any age) / 1M 65+ population for both countries, we get 2886 for the US vs. 2780 for Sweden. Sweden's death rate / elderly population is actually lower than than that of the US, and the US should only be expected to fall further behind in this metric as time passes in view of the fact that Sweden is further along its curve than the US.
[1] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-corona...
[3] - https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-...
There are widespread reports indicating that surviving COVID-19 doesn’t mean you’re in the clear, regardless of your age. Yet a significant number of people continue to focus exclusively on death rate.
To reiterate the parent’s question: why are you, personally, focused exclusively on the death rate? Presumably, you’re young, and your risk of dying from COVID-19 is low. Why aren’t you more concerned about non-fatal but irreversible damage to your body, since that’s a more likely outcome for you? This is a perspective that people like the parent and myself genuinely don’t understand. What is your thought process?
More generally, chronic and potentially permanent damage is a fact of life. If the long-term nonfatal consequences of the coronavirus don't pass the scale or severity of, say, carpal tunnel syndrome, I'm comfortable rounding that off as "not a big deal in the scheme of things".
I think you are imagining the most mild manifestations that could be categorized as those things. Those terms could cover a range from trivial to debilitating/life destroying.
It's like when you read that someone isn't or no longer is in "critical condition". It sounds good, it's antiseptic, but it could conceal unimaginable horror.
How many years of shutdown can we handle?
Nearly every person I know is beyond stressed out. I’ve seen work people break down on calls. Remote just isn’t for everyone.
There is a period where you allow time for doctors to figure out best treatment. Maybe we’ll get a vaccine.
How many people are going start dying from sitting and watching tv all day.
Rona is the #3 cause of death in the US right now.
I question how much of quarantine angst is actually real. In most states it's barely a thing... You stand in line at the grocery store and eat outside at restaurants. That's not a substantive difference. The only real thing is that people haven't been going into an office, which honestly... Harden up, or at least find coping mechanisms that can handle the slightest disruption.
Imo quarantine is exposing a lot of social rot and forcing confrontations with chronic unhealthy behaviors. Work should not be a crutch for your social life, and you should be able to handle being with your children.