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Comment by Abishek_Muthian | Hacker News Reader

Creating a competitor is simple enough, making the video from that platform appear above a video from the YouTube on the Google search is what would determine its fate.

Then again, if anyone can make Google accountable it's EU.

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Google search does have a Videos tab showing video search results.

I just did a search for "ASCII table" and there are 4 videos not on YouTube in the top 10 videos (2 of them on a website called "ASCII table", one on "science buddies", one on reddit).

(In fact this is why I don't like to use this tab: the video might be on a random website and the video might be somewhere down the page, while the website is not optimized on mobile.)

Disclaimer: I am a Google employee but not working on YouTube or search.

I feel the way you do, I never use that tab because often the videos shown there are hosted on shitty websites. I wish it was restricted to YouTube so I didn't have to go to YouTube to search YouTube.

On Chrome you can directly search YouTube from the searchbar by tabbing after typing "YouTube"

You can limit a search to any domain or even subdomain

site:youtube.com thing you want to search for

With DuckDuckGo or Searx you can search YT with !yt <search term>

I think most of the time when I'm searching for a video, my starting point is on YouTube itself, not Google. So in the case of a competitor, the site itself would be my search engine. Your point is still valid though.

Fair point, but Google displays videos at the top of the search results even when you are not searching for videos explicitly and those videos are from YouTube.

There are enough stats to say, a layman would click a video over an article to read.

Tbh even when I search on Google I normally avoid non YouTube links. Other than Vimeo I find they either don't work or have 30s ads

Google will display videos from other sources both at the top of the web search and in the videos search.

Through in my experience this videos are rarely what I'm looking for.

If the video that is being searched for is removed from YouTube, then there is no YouTube page that could be above the competitor's page.

I would assume you'd need to rank well at more than just Danish music to compete with YouTube in general.

And this, in turn, forms ground for another lawsuit...

What competitors are out there already? If the problem is popularity I'll contribute by searching there first, then YouTube.

Not exactly competitors, but today I mostly use Nebula and CuriosityStream instead of Youtube when I want long-form bedtime videos. Both are paid, unfortunately, but for $20 a year I think it's more than worth it.

As far as I understand, Nebula is also co-owned by content creators themselves. Also, they see direct revenue from subscriptions.

I had no idea! That makes me happy, as I want to support them.

PeerTube exists in the Fediverse sphere. There's Nebula from several content creators on YouTube. I don't know how well your random search would go on either though.

cinnamon.video Obviously not a competitor at it current non existing market share but they obviously are after youtube creators and have a different monetization concept that YT.

DailyMotion is the biggest one I can think of.

It's interesting to watch how the American big tech companies tread much more lightly with their deplatforming and results manipulation with respect to EU entities. They know the forum isn't a favorable one. This is easily seen by doing Google searches for prominent US/Canada based and EU based extremist organizations and reviewing the results.

If you use Google video search (from the search engine itself) often enough, you will many even majority of the times, the top N results are most likely not from Youtube, even though that is what I want.

No creating a competitor isn't easy. Profitable video hosting is trade secret still, and even with Google's technology and scale it becomes barely sustainable.

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