In my submission history you can see just yesterday an MRI study out of Europe. 78% of patients had cardiovascular involvement, 60% of patients still had heart inflammation.
These were 100 Germans, tested 2-3 months after diagnosis. And 2/3rd of the cases in the study were mild at home cases, no hospitalization. There was no large difference in heart involvement between groups.
A fairly large amount of the literature on these effects is actually from Europe as you got hit a month before the US, so there’s been more time to write studies.
I would not say you have any evidence in support of your position. I certainly have not heard of any studies finding covid to be a multi fanged beast in america and a mere respiratory virus in the rest of the world.
Edit: the paper: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/...
The virus is still a coronavirus (neural invasion, also noted for SARS-CoV-2, is also a feature of regular coronaviruses). These effects, although possibly severe and worthy of concern, are second-order effects.
That's always something i wonder every time i read about covid-19 : are we sure that those effects aren't also observed with other coronaviruses, maybe on a different intensity, but we just never had so much scrutiny for thoses virus as we have on this one in particular ?
Diarrheas etc are common symptoms of many viral infections, and people die from side effects of the flu or the cold every year ( old people most of the time).
Is the difference qualitative or quantitative ?
Took a while to dig through my post history, but here's the paper I mentioned:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncel.2018.0038...
https://www.sheltermedicine.com/library/resources/?r=feline-...
They were under the impression only Americans had widespread non-respiratory symptoms of coronavirus.
That is because the news flows in only one direction, not because it's not happening. It's not being very well reported even here, but it's definitely happening; I have heard several friends-of-friends who now have long term post-covid conditions, including some previously very fit.
Example: https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/kontraste/coronavirus...
It is quite closed minded to reduce this to 'the U.S. is a sick country'
I have to update the number in my head :D
I know plenty of people who use illegal drugs but still have that perception of America thanks to Hollywood/etc.
Personally, I don't know the data between countries, and while I've been to the US a bunch of times I've never tried to obtain medicine there legally or illegally. But I have found a big difference between UK ("You want valium? Are you sure? OK, here are 4x 2mg pills") vs France/Belgium ("Do you mean 10mg, I don't think valium comes that weak..." before realising they could prescribe 2mg indeed, and multiple times I've asked for a controlled drug in FR/BE and had the doctor reply "how many boxes" without even asking why I wanted it. Purely anecdotal, though.)
Ultimately, a lot of the world's views of America are shaped by the versions we see in fiction - I've been to the US from Europe more than most people I know, and I have plenty of American friends/colleagues. But still, I spend more time watching fictional versions of America on my TV than I do experiencing America myself.
The naturalist fallacy is often actual empirical reality (sometimes natural states are better).
It's just the fact that it's not always the case, which makes it a fallacy.
But in the case, overloading on drugs for every BS annoyance, and having them needlessly pushed by doctors on payola and gifts from pharmaceuticals, is worse than not doing it.
I was replying to the idea that it is the "naturalist fallacy" to say that it is better to be develop good habits (in this case, eat better), than to just take some drugs and maintain the bad habits. Obese people should take the drugs, I don't wish for anyone to die. Even better for them would be to lose the weight.
The US has a huge (pun intended) obesity problem, and it seems related to worse health outcomes across several dimensions. This is just a fact.
Yes. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room. In a just society, we'd make the obese pay for their cost to the non-obese population.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/drug-use-therapeutic.htm
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
they don't seem ahead.
The data sources are not 100% comparable so make of that what you will.
- UCSF, the paper author, consider HFCS to be a poison and likely explains why there was no obesity in 60's photos, yet over half of Americans today. As a result, a huge number are on blood pressure and other drugs, which also end up in the water supply.
I presume you're referring to Dr. Lustig of UCSF's research on sugar, or more specifically his position that fructose is a toxin akin to ethanol due to how similarly they're processed by the liver.
If so, Dr. Lustig is careful to point out that this is not an HFCS-specific issue. Sugar and HFCS both contain fructose, and are essentially identical in this regard. This kind of misinformed demonizing of HFCS results in people thinking sweets are perfectly safe as long as they contain sugar and not HFCS, UCSF does not back such a position AFAIK.
HFCS has replaced fat as the basis of many processed foods because corn is subsidized in the US.
As a result, the majority of Americans are obese from eating pounds of HFCS weekly.
You're just being harmfully imprecise with your claim, because it implies non-HFCS sweeteners aren't poison - according to UCSF no less. The fructose is the poison, and it's not HFCS-specific. It happens that HFCS is the thing that's everywhere thanks to corn subsidies, sure, but there's still plenty of non-HFCS fructose sources on the shelves of stores that are equally harmful. You're not in the clear by specifically avoiding HFCS.
I observe overweight strangers in the grocery store checkout isle extolling the virtues of eating sugar but not HFCS as they toss candy on the conveyor about once a month. It's rather depressing.
Edit: BTW I suspect you're shadow-banned in case you didn't know, as your comments in this thread have been immediately [dead]. Looking at your general comments history there's a lot of [dead].
Excess fructose consumption is implicated in causing non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, which affects about 20-25% of people in Europe, and 30-40% of adults in the US. [0]
This statistic alone gives me cause for grave concern WRT covid-19 outcomes for those 30-40% of American adults should they get infected.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-alcoholic_fatty_liver_dise...