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Can someone argue that the complexity of the cloud does not easily surpass the time and effort of just setting it up yourself? And for once all of that time and effort into setting it up is actually valuable and you get much better insights into your own operations.

And the alternative is paying someone to lock you into their ecosystem.

Are we really that lazy?

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It's more about:

- Flexible scaling.

- Using other existing services from the cloud provider.

- Not needing to manage any hardware. (Or to hire someone to manage the hardware for you).

- Running your things in a data center. (Well connected, reasonable fault tolerant.)

- Less upfront operational cost (you are not required to pay for expensive hardware upfront).

For larger companies, especially such with massive amounts of micro-services it all about the flexible scaling and not needing to manage hardware.

- usually not even needed on real hardware. Focus on a sound architecture (which will reward you in everything you do). But depending on situation VMs are an excellent choice and it is easy to spin up more

- that is an antifeature

- seems trivial compared to keeping up with all the cloud gotchas

- possible anyway

- sure, but you probably don't need expensive hardware to start, or go with VMs

Try this one:

- AWS (and other cloud providers') kickbacks

Not sure what that is?

Sounds like a convoluted, time consuming scheme designed to further lock you in with the promise to recoup a fraction of AWS the tax?

Just making a fun of the fact that kickbacks paid by amazon to top management surely pay a big role why corps choose AWS.

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