I’d like to see Antifa added to this growing list as well.
The article states this group has “ties to dangerous real-world activities”. Does anyone know of any? Or is this just conjecture? The article’s statement was fairly vague.
The article states this group has “ties to dangerous real-world activities”. Does anyone know of any? Or is this just conjecture? The article’s statement was fairly vague.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-man-with-assault-rifle-d...
I don't think you believe in some time travel conspiracy, that would be more of QAnon thing.
It should have by rights have disappeared into obscurity after the imminent mass arrests of HRC and other prominent Dems didn't occur; much like the lone gunman inadvertently showed Pizzagate as a hoax.
Rather it has morphed into a moment of sorts that channels people frustrations with anything and everything, with a weird idolisation of Trump the celebrity and now encompasses any alt/far-right fringe idea that is big on conspiracy but generally lacking in theory.
The left is a vast collection of competing factional ideas that in many cases the only common purpose is a demand for change.
Environmentalists can't agree with each other, let alone animal welfare activists who can't agree with native/traditional rights; and theres a range of single issue movements that end up diluting support for bigger picture issues simply by association. I'm not saying that they are wrong or their demands invalid but it draws attention away from the messages everyone could get behind if there was better focus.
It happened with the "Occupy Wall Street" and "BLM" will likely go the same way if it doesn't simply stick to one core message.
Then there's like at least 3 groups trying to start 3 new political parties, those of us pushing for the greens, more pushing for one of the socialist parties, and some even pushing for the libertarian party (I'm a leftist/socialist libertarian, but the libertarian party is NOTHING like a left/libertarian), and some voting for Trump out of spite, or insanity, and the rest probably cow-towing to vote for Biden.
Just ideas alone it's pretty disjointed. No organization. I mean the right/tea party at least was pretty coherent and had a pretty good structure to accomplish their goals.
Leftists though have their own purity tests, and their own minds made up and can be rather stubborn about how to accomplish goals, what those goals should be, etc...
I think we all have ADHD or something.
However, there's no 'terrorism' on the left, or very rare. antifa is not a terrorist org. Show me the deaths, the bombs, etc. I can show you plenty of those on the right though, an antifa terrorist is probably some kid egging or graffit-ing a building. That's about as serious as they get, because most on the left are also pacifists.
Bernie was unfortunately an outsider who never stood a chance without the power brokers in the Democrat party stepping forward to back him, but the Greens seem to just eat their own.
> was a militant anti-fascist organisation,
emphasis mine. People who self-identify as anti-fascist nowadays have little to do with communism. Why not link this page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism
Second of all, is "communist" a slur on HN? Is that supposed to sound scary or something?
But I’ve never met someone complaining about them who could name one of them. It’s like some Boys of Brazil meets George Soros thing with them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Incidents https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2020/01/08/mother-t...
No "antifa" movement has been associated with the same degree of violence and coordinated harassment. There are not tens of thousands of "antifa" members sharing lists of public figures they believe have been or should be executed and fabricating evidence against those figures.
* Doxxing
* Brandishing weapons in a family restaurant [1]
* Targeting journalists for violence
* Targeting public figures who have been accused of crimes for violence [2]
* Targeting politicians for violence
* Bombing churches (and yes, Satanic temples are just as bad to bomb as Christian churches)
* Invading foreign soil
Could you help flesh out the equivalence here? It seems like quite the false equivalence to me. Antifascist violence is a last resort, not a central desire of the ideology; we've seen police, military police, and now secret police in a continuing escalation of violence by the state; meanwhile, Q's followers seem quite happy to endorse violence as the primary means by which political and social change are achieved, by which detective work is done and facts are learned, and by which discussions are had and consensus is reached.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Incidents
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory
Connor Betts who shot 9 people dead was an antifa sympathizer [1]
James T. Hodgkinson who hurt two officers and wounded Republican Rep. Scalise in a shootout was found to have posted a lot of content comparing President Trump and the Republican party to Nazis [2]. An idea that has been popularized by antifa elements.
[0] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/ice-detent...
[1] https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/08/07/dayton-shootin...
[2] http://jewishbreakingnews.com/2017/06/14/breaking-shooter-id...