Did Turing talk about this aspect? I seem to remember there was supposed to be a panel or committee rather than a single individual?
Did Turing talk about this aspect? I seem to remember there was supposed to be a panel or committee rather than a single individual?
An interviewer is then trying to decide who of them is actually the one they pretend to be by asking questions.
In order to remove any hints from appearance, voice, or handwriting, a typewriter is used for interacting.
For example A could be male and B could be female and A is asked to pretend to be B. The interviewer can then ask questions to decide whether A is male or female (yes, I am fully aware that in 2020 this: https://youtu.be/z2_8cfVpXbo?t=129 could also happen).
Turing then proposed to replace A or B with a computer instead and ask the interviewer to decide which of them is the human.
In this scenario, do you really think the interviewer would bombard the candidates with trivia questions and logic puzzles to find out?
The idea was, that other aspects of human intelligence, like a sense for beauty, poetry, etc. would be used instead to differentiate between the two.
Questions like "Do you enjoy reading Harry Potter?" and depending on the answer you could further ask why or why not the subject likes or dislikes the books.
This would be much more insightful and coming up with such questions doesn't require any particular skill on part of the interviewer.
You can even get tricky and return to the topic after talking about something else to see whether you get a similar response or to test the subject's memory.
A test "pass" or "fail" could potentially be the fault of the tester as much as it is a sign of intelligence in the AI. How do you evaluate how capable someone is of administering a worthwhile Turing Test?
Maybe they should be tested beforehand. I propose a system involving a remote teletype machine and human tester...
If the system has any of them fooled, the test can be considered "passed". AFAIK there's no precise number attached to this, so it's not like ">x% people fooled => pass".
So in essence it's not "the human tester" but "the average human tester" for some arbitrary definition of "average".
It's a really interesting dilemma if you think about it: is a forger good if they're able to fool everyone but experts? Does an AI pass the Turing test if it fools the general public, but every AI expert who knows the system would be able to tell after just a few sentences?
So the basic quality he seeks in a machine that could pass the so called turing test is a machine that produces meaning. That meaning comes from any mind that is intact or coherent. So unless we take the leap from making category deciders and inference machines to actually building minds, we won't get anywhere near his definition of a machine that is truly intelligent.
That's what the "reply" button is for.
FWIW:
- The ab nihilo mention of 'Turing explains' (explains what? where?) feels odd.
- The quotes are redundant, but seem designed to make the statement sound weighty.
- "It's" is a common grammatical error in corpuses, but not one likely to be made by any kind of practising philosopher.
- The concept of "meaning" is one implicitly eschewed by the Turing test, so the discussion of meaning here seems odd.
- The comment is circular: unless we build minds, we won't build things that pass the Turing tests, which are minds.
Are we trying to build minds? Or is all the effort going into building automated money savers that take away trivial jobs? That is the main point here.