Like in Abu Ghraib, where they created a torture dungeon for thousands of Iraqis, from common criminals to suspect rebels, generally without trial?
This whole "no, it's just some really evil individuals that we tortured, we are the good guys here" narrative is disgusting.
this is the main point. both states like to do it without trial.
What's more important is intention. One side tries to catch murderers and sometimes does not follow due process.
The other side tries to kill off the culture of an entire people by violently "reeducation" millions of human beings.
Honestly, I find it disgusting that people here seem to be mostly fine with those crimes, and even try to defend them.