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I'm so shocked at the positivity about Teams.

At my company we use it and there's a timeline to shut down Skype for Business in favour of it.

The app is incredibly slow, doesn't have tabs so if you're in a chat, then you want to reference a file you're making in the tools you have to click out of it.

Teams chats and 1 on 1 chats are another "web page" to load.

Clicks load as fast as my 1mbps internet connection in 2004

Skype for Business is still used for chat even though we're told by IT to transition because the app is so slow.

I just see it as crap clone that Microsoft coded together in a messy hurry to copy Slack, and then included it free in their Office subscriptions.

The conversations around using slack are that it's really expensive in comparison to free.

Why isn't that anticompetitive?

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"The app is incredibly slow"

I wish the forces didn't align to make every "enterprise" application drop performance down the priority list to somewhere around position 20 or 30. I understand how it happens, but I don't have to like it.

Slack has been slowing down on me lately too. It seems like every couple of months, the amount of time between typing someone's @name and it finally resolving is growing longer, meaning I have more time to type more stuff before the cursor snaps back to just after the @name.

(I wish there was a "hey, be less rounded and polished and deeply nested in HTML tags and be fast" mode....)

I understand how performance isn’t a priority but would argue that it should be: The users of enterprise apps are typically employees whose time is valuable. That ought to be an important consideration for those who control the purse strings.

The advice I have for you is to try opening Teams in Firefox or Chrome instead of the Electron app. It seems to be more responsive from what I can tell. The native browser notifications are nicer on my multi-monitor set up too.

It’s always been this way though, we started using it during the public beta, and the performance has not appeared to improve at all.

I’m very curious with what’s going on here... Microsoft of all companies should have the resources to either make native apps for Windows and Mac, or share some best practices from the VS Code team.

> At my company we use it and there's a timeline to shut down Skype for Business in favour of it.

That's not because your company loves it, it's because Microsoft is starting to discontinue some versions of Skype for Business and forcing everyone over to Teams.

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