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Dodge is on top instead of Toyota or Honda? This makes the results immediately suspect.

It's in the first 90 days. Perhaps Toyota or Honda put additional features in their car that require some tweaking? When I bought a new 2018 Accord, the fancy display immediately had issues from day 1 and needed replacing. After that, no issues.

Usage of the word “Quality” rather than “Initial quality” in the article headline makes it all look like some kind of lame hatchet job

Yeah, the submitted article's title doesn't tell the entire story. That's why it's always important to comment on the article, not the headline.

I disagree. Deception isn't cool and its worth calling it out when it happens.

>Dodge is on top instead of Toyota or Honda? This makes the results immediately suspect.

If you have evidence to the contrary, can you provide the forum with links?

According to JD Power [1], Lexus is the most dependable 2019 brand. Dodge is the most improved, but its still lower in the list. And according to Consumer Reports study on 2020 models [2] Lexus is the most reliable brand but Dodge is in the top 10. The CR results are behind a paywall so here's a USA Today article covering the study [3].

[1]: https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2019-us-vehi...

[2]: https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisf...

[3]: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/11/14/consume...

Edit: Toyota does appear higher than Dodge in both studies.

You're literally talking about a different measure. This article is about initial issues (first 90 days of ownership); dependability refers to long-term ownership

"overall dependability for three-year-old vehicles"

Fair point. This does illustrate why someone might find it surprising that Dodge is outranking Toyota in a measure of quality though.

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