Lots of lines being crossed the last few decades.
Lots of lines being crossed the last few decades.
"State security" provides security to the existence of the state.
An example where that may have gotten out of hand is the Boston Marathon bombing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21690520
According to the government, the government didn't intend to deceive the public. Of course if a government were willing to deceive the public, it's practically tautological that the government would be willing to deceive the public about their intent to deceive the public. In other words, liars say they aren't liars, because they're liars.
A lot of people think that's exactly what they did. From a legitimate law enforcement perspective the program was a sick joke, so speculation as to whether it had other motivations the American government is unwilling to discuss seems fair.
So it's reasonable to say that what we're talking about is the broad world of intelligence agencies keeping their hands in everything, so what might seem like an action of a cartel or other gang (Hell's Angels in the case of the Nova Scotia shooter) may well have received aid from actual state agencies.
It's always been my guess that Fast & Furious was about supplying arms to them, or at least that makes more sense than "gathering information" as an objective.
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/17/1747720_re-fwd-re-fw-f...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2014/01/14/was-operat...