There is a three page thread on using the Apple 32" XDR for software dev on MacRumors. [1]
I believe there is a major product gap at Apple right now in the mid-market display. Specifically a replacement for the LED 27" Cinema Display which was announced 10 years ago next month. [2]
I am speculating that Apple could announce a new 27" 5k in part because of the rumored announcement of a new Mac Pro but also because the build quality of the LG 5k Ultrafine is just not great and there are obvious synergies with XDR production and Mac Pro.
I think this should be announced at WWDC is because developers specifically are being left out of good display products and Apple should be looking out for what they stare at all day.
While there are no supply chain rumors of such a display, I wargamed what this product might be and its pricing anyway.[3]
In short, I speculate Apple will release a 27 inch IPS display, 5120 x 2880 @ 60Hz with standard glass at $1999, Nano-texture Glass at $2799.
I had not paid a lot of attention to the refresh rate, but it does seem like kind of a miss that the XDR does nor offer this.
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[1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/xdr-for-software-dev.22...
[2] https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2010/07/27Apple-Unveils-New-2...
[3] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/wishful-thinking-wwdc-d...
I ended up going with Dell U2720Qs, and after some tedious initial work to get them running natively at 60hz, they're fine.
I would have bought the Apple displays in a second though if they had been priced up to maybe even 3k each.
What it did find off-putting is that Dell say they don't test with Macs, and thus can't support them, but they just assume that Appl follow the same specification they do. A bit weak, but the monitor does work fine.
That's $200 more than it costs with the computer built in. Would rather see it more aggressively priced, or at least bring back target mode.
It seems display tech in imac is severely discounted in order to sell the whole thing. And it does seem to break the pricing if you don't see them as different products offering value for different configurations.
Bringing back target mode, or allowing the iMac to act as an external monitor would greatly increase the value of that product.
I can't explain how this pricing makes sense exactly, except that I can only assume Apple will want or need to price this stuff high to help differentiate the build quality in comparison to the collaboration on LG's ultrafine.
Either way, that'd be a cool product to see and seems like a decent side hustle to get some $. :)
The SSD upgrade is not for the faint hearted, however. I used the iFixit kit with the provided “tools”, and lifting off 27” of extremely expensive and heavy glass that sounded like it might crack at any moment was not exactly fun. Having said that - I would do it again in a heartbeat to get another computer/display like this for the price I paid.
With regards to scaling: I have had zero problems with either my rMBP (since 2013) or this iMac, when in macOS running at high resolution. Zero. As soon as I boot Windows or Linux, however, it’s basically unusable unless I turn the resolution down.
It looks like the main concerns on this are around stuck pixels. Have you gone through calibration / QA on yours? [2]
Otherwise, seems like a compelling alternative to the Ultrafine.
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/8zomas/i_just_rec...
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/e5n9y5/planar_ix2...
I haven't bothered calibrating it.
I just wish they bring back Target Mode, or something similar to iPad's SideCar.
- Proved and debugged on the XDR release at the pro price point.
- Kept working on how it can be cheaper and fit into plans for whatever the ARM-based machine's initial graphics capability will be.
- Designed it to use a similar manufacturing line to the iMac then offer it at a lower price point to support the current mac pro, mac mini and a possible dev kit for the arm mac.
Or I suppose just keep making everyone buy the LG 5k ultrafine that is four years old. :P
[1] https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34WK95U-W-ultrawide-monito...
I cannot tell the difference between the LG and my MacBook's retina screen at my normal viewing range, but this may just be my eyes.
I also use a non integer scaling factor on both screens as I find it has the right combo of resolution and real estate for me, and I don't notice artefacts.
I can't go back to sub-4k though. Looking at a 24" 1920x1080 monitor tweaks my brain. Pixels ahoy. It's jarring. I'm not the kind of person who cares about superficial things or style or brand at all, but I just can't get comfortable with sub-4k anymore.
Be very wary of Apple monitors. If you can, try one out in the environment you intend to use it in, before you commit. Apple displays are highly reflective. The glare is obscene. The display quality is great, but I can't deal with the eye strain. It's like there's a mirror glaze on top. They used to offer a matte option, but I don't believe they do anymore. It's painful.
The "fixed now" part is the replacement of the Butterfly keyboard across Apple's laptop (and even the iPad docks!) lineup
Also, apple had TN screens forever when the similarly priced competition had higher res IPS screens.
As far as I am aware Apple only used TN screen for their MacBook Air. They were also the first to push Retina / Hi PPI Display on Consumer PC.
They were not the first. That would be Sony Vaio for hidpi and ultrabooks and ibm and hp for hires ips. Apple were the first widely successful ones.
Are you sure about that? It doesn't seem to mesh with my recollection.
>At 220 pixels per inch it’s easily the highest density consumer notebook panel shipping today.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-...
>"Of course, the real highlight is that new Retina Display. Its resolution is 2,880x1,800 pixels, providing a level of detail never seen on a laptop before. The highest standard Windows laptop screen resolution is 1,920x1,080 pixels, the same as an HDTV."
https://www.cnet.com/reviews/apple-macbook-pro-with-retina-d...
>The signature feature of the new MacBook Pro is the new 15.4-inch (39.11 cm diagonal) Retina display. [...] So far, no notebook screen has topped resolutions of 1900 x 1200 pixels (WUXGA) or 2048x1536 (QXGA in old Thinkpad models).
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Re...
If you manage to dig up some obscure laptop that had a higher resolution at the time I wouldn't be completely surprised. However, to suggest that Apple was "late(!)" with high DPI screens is provably false and frankly, ridiculous.
The trackpad was just as good, too. But of course, the OS was worse, mostly in terms of performance. Windows 10 just always feels slow for some reason.