> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.
Imagine a new user enters HN ecosystem. They write a complain about HN turning into Reddit - as they felt and observed. Then they go read the guideline that makes a fool out of them as "semi-noob". I don't think that kind of treatment belongs here.
Please don't take my quote as my highlighting the noob bit, as it also made me cringe a little. It's an entirely reasonable opinion that you (and the person who vehemently took up your cause in the comment tree) want a more content-rich thread.
But you have to understand posting that opinion is at least 1:1 comment volume with the thing being complained about--so best case, 100% bloat--and it tends to start a N:1 tree under it, so N-hundred% bloat. What was one content-light joke that would've had a few light replies is now a big discussion and now the thread is very, very content-lean for on-topic discussion.
I think that's why that rule is there, not because your opinion is invalid. If it's really that much of a problem such that the downvotes won't do it, then we need to talk but most threads work fine. Further, complaining about the substance of a comment within the same thread is guaranteed to make the overall situation worse, no matter how valid the complaint, because of the above.
I realize I'm contributing to the content-leanness at this point too, by that definition. However, you do deserve a respectful explanation as to why I felt it was appropriate to reply, and the apology for quoting the poorly-worded rule without trying to somehow acknowledge that. I should have, and I am sorry about that.
Thanks for the explanation and I can see why this whole complaining bit gets old and chewed upon over years. I've personally not stumbled upon anyone that complains about HN turning into Reddit.
Also, I feel out of place because I don't own this forum, don't have a stake in HN moderation and its workings. I don't think I have the right to complain in the first place.
Just felt like saying at the time and it felt right. Appreciate your thoughts and clarification.
If this isn't Reddit, may be I need to go there again, perhaps things have improved?
I come on HN to get away from jokes, especially of the type in the parent comment. Allow this and then the top comment in every thread on HN is some form a joke. The internet is filled to the brim with entertainment and jokes. It is nice to come here on HN and participate in intellectual, curious and informative discussion. A little humor here and there is fine.
HN may be serious, but we're not entirely humorless.
> HN may be serious, but we're not entirely humorless.
I can agree with that, a little sprinkle of tasteful humor doesn't hurt even thought it doesn't add anything meaningful to the discussion. Totally ok.
Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.
Guidelines are great and I usually abide by them, once in a while there is a reason to break them and I've substantiated those reasons.
Consider my take on this as a form of protest against the eroding quality of HN discussions.
It's the comments that have no substance, the "no you're wrong" kind that doesn't actually _say_ anything, or specifically baiting for heated responses in flame wars that are issues.
You might not like the jokes, but this type are definitely allowed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXrbqXPnHvE
Must you condemn them to menial lives of eternal servitude?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXsUetUzXlg
Your robophobic attitude puts you at grave risk of robot attack in the coming AI Revolution, so you should seriously consider Old Glory Robot Insurance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Gh_IcK8UM
Use the following discount code and you will receive your first month's robot insurance at half price: "NOROBO"
Exactly. The top comment is typically not a joke on most posts.
Also, is reddit the only other site on the internet with a comment section? Why is Reddit specifically relevant here?
Did you actually miss the 101 Dalmations reference the joke was actually making? I thought it was super clever and nuanced. Much superior to Reddit.
I'm sad to see the top comment is a joke and no one is really seriously talking about what they could do. Which I think currently is little.
They'll probably cost $100,000 a year to manage and I'm not sure outside of meta entertainment what they can do.
They have no finger dexterity, no intelligence.
People seem to think they have everything a dog or even a human has. They don't.