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BTW Spain is using the same tactics to basically say there are no new deaths. But there are.

Spain's "baile de cifras" (numbers dance) made me lift an eyebrow over this past week. Lots of recalculations and zero deaths.

After following the evolution for a few weeks and seeing a lot of strange movements, I'm probably one of the few people that thinks that the "one step behind" Spanish Kaeshi Waza was smart and beautifully executed. To be fair, France, in a way, deserved it.

Could you detail your post? I'm afraid i'm not informed enough to understand the words after "one of the few people".

At this moment is just a plausible hypothetical explanation. Is not the only possible, but explains the pattern, and has a lot of sense.

Do you have a source?

Not source per se but some common sense - worst hit european country, having 1 death yesterday, 1 day before. worldometers doesn't show daily data further back, but its either really exceptional coincidence, or not true.

> worldometers doesn't show daily data further back

If you click the country name you can see a graph that displays the amount of deaths per day.

https://www.ft.com/content/77eb7a13-cd26-41dd-9642-616708b43...

While I do not doubt for a minute that there has been and there is a lot of number fudging (both intentional and not), that link is 1.5 months old.

I point it out just to mean that the data is not current and as such can hardly reflect the current situation. This [1] seems to have more current data about excess deaths.

[1] https://momo.isciii.es/public/momo/dashboard/momo_dashboard....

> that link is 1.5 months old.

Maybe the link has changed since you wrote your comment, but:

"Flawed data casts cloud over Spain’s lockdown strategy

"Erratic numbers create uncertainties for policymakers and the public

"Daniel Dombey in Madrid and John Burn-Murdoch in London JUNE 4 2020"

Yeah, that's not what the link previously pointed to, I guess. It was a report from mid-April.

paywall?

This Twitter thread is probably one of the best sources: (from John Burn-Murdoch, who does excellent data visualization work for the Financial Times)

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1268450736398098433

The paywall is also easily crossed by, for example, archive.is

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