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And what defines "hate"? Are they going be as consistent with the content of gangsta rappers? I'd wager no.

It really is sad to see how hiveminded reddit has become, particularly with the city subreddits. Any person with a dissenting viewpoint either gets banned or gets downvoted to oblivion.

And not everyone shares the same viewpoint on who the "bad people" are out there. I, for one, feel that thug brutality is a bigger problem than police brutality, and I have my own reasoning behind it. But an idea like this can never be stated on reddit because it's simply too radical. And the more people that use this platform, the more people are going to mimic whatever the popular narrative is playing at that point in time. (Remember covid?)

And it's affected my friends too. It's almost like I'm in Invasion of the Bodysnatchers Movie.

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> feel that thug brutality is a bigger problem than police brutality

That phrasing, as if we had to choose between two forms of brutality, is the problem itself. Police brutality doesn't decrease other forms of violence.

On the contrary, it legitimizes it and contextualizes it as a war. This has been exhaustively studied for the past half century. It is a sociological problem which has sociological solutions, which a functioning police force is a large part of. Perhaps it is easier to see this pattern if you look at other countries than your own.

If you find yourself accused of taking sides with hate speech, this framing in the form of a false choice might be a big part of why.

> And what defines "hate"? Are they going be as consistent with the content of gangsta rappers? I'd wager no.

Probably because the content from "gangsta rappers" doesn't instigate brutality that leverages a power imbalance the way cultural and systemic hatred drive police brutality.

> thug brutality is a bigger problem than police brutality

It's objectively not, and I won't hide the reasoning either: police brutality is the end result of power-induced amplification of (as noted earlier) cultural and systemic hatred against minority/protected classes. "Thug" brutality on the other hand... isn't even a thing.

p.s. Your implicit analogy between "gangsta rappers" and "thug" brutality suggests you see "thug" and "black" as analogous; not sure if that's what you were going for, but it certainly reads that way. And since you're asserting "thug brutality" as being worse than power-imbalanced crime - more specifically since you're stating your perception of black-on-black crime as worse than police-on-black crime - it's important for you to understand why the movement itself is so focused on police brutality and systemic bigotry. Circa 2016: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/07/27/wh...

You're missing his point; what defines "hateful" is mostly subjective and is always influenced by the watchmen interests. And what is acceptable today may be considered hateful tomorrow, in fact back in the 1990s "gangsta rap" was considered hateful.

> back in the 1990s "gangsta rap" was considered hateful.

By whom?

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