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It seems like pushing through massive budget cuts and busting up police unions is the next logical step. I understand this is easier said than done, but the sooner we get started on actually fighting this fight the easier it will be to get through.

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Trying that on teacher unions failed and police are more trusted and more respected than teachers/schools.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/274673/nurses-continue-rate-hig...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/236243/military-small-business-...

That isn't a good comparison, police unions have mostly different support systems and allies than other unions. Police unions are not generally helped by other unions to put it mildly.

Also, enough public support exists for both sides to try and act so which one has more "public trust" doesn't matter at all, it's about exerting power now.

Teachers' unions don't even have the power to get budgets big enough for teachers to not have to buy their own school supplies for students. Talk to me when police unions are weak enough that we can cut police department budgets back so much that police have to buy their own bullets and riot gear.

There's a lot of bad blood between the NYPD and the mayor now, given that the NYPD arrested de Blasio's daughter and then posted Chiara's arrest report -

https://nypost.com/2020/06/01/nypd-sergeants-union-tweets-ou...

NYPD and the Mayor were duking even before this, and NYPD have turned their back to Mayor at the Police funeral. The stakes might have gone higher, but the bad blood was there at least few years old.

I'm getting tired of the union rep who always comes out and throws gasoline around over their non-stop political fight with the mayor. He never has anything constructive to say.

There is a real problem when the second largest police force on the planet can't get its employees to stand up and do the job they signed up for. Strategically abandoning their duty so as to win political points is a disgrace.

> I'm getting tired of the union rep who always comes out and throws gasoline around over

I'm starting to think this is actually a well crafted strategy for union leaders to go out in the middle of a killing where an officer might be in the wrong where they start throwing insults and muddy the water.

Could you help me understand a little more about the situation in NYC? From an outsiders perspective, it seems that de Blasio supports the police department, but at the same time, they arrested his daughter and tweeted details. I'm kinda just curious about whats actually happening.

Preventing police officers from collective bargaining will not solve any problems and could actually make things worse.

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