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I prefered the sequel K for D programmers.

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Damn it, I thought this wasn't a joke!

I did enjoy fumbling around in ike [1], a javascript-based K playground :-)

[1] http://johnearnest.github.io/ok/ike/ike.html

I still feel bamboozled by the mockbuster "J++ for C++ Programmers".

If these books have APL adjustable rank ⍤ used on the `for` function, we can make many more combinations:

    "J for⍤0 0⊢ C Programmers" ≢ J for C programmers.

    "J for⍤1 0⊢ C Programmers" ≢ J++ for C programmers.

    "J for⍤0 1⊢ C Programmers" ≢ J for C++ programmers.

    "J for⍤1 2⊢ C Programmers" ≢ J++ for C# programmers.

    "J for⍤2 2⊢ C Programmers" ≢ J# for C# programmers.

etc. Then with `commute` ⍨ we can swap the argument order as well:

    "J for⍨⍤1 0⊢ C Programmers" ≢ C++ for J programmers.

etc.

(Assuming C has a single implicit plus, C++ is a 1D array of plusses, C# has a 2D matrix of plusses)

J++ was actually a real thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if that book had been written.

Funny though anything that competes with D better be damn good. The more I study and write small projects with D the more I love about D!

It wears off.

I used d for quite a while, and I still think it's much better than c++. However, it's ultimately just more of the same: an incoherent, tangled mess. Slightly more coherent, slightly less tangled, sure. It's possible to iterate on garbage, but you still wouldn't want to serve it at a restaurant. Worse, it has politics. Prominent d users regularly talk about forking the language/compiler; not because of any specific language pain points, but because of pathological problems with the way the language is developed.

The main compiled/native language to watch imo is cone[1], though most of its ideas are not yet implemented. Zig is also decent, and closer to production-ready.

1. http://cone.jondgoodwin.com/

Neat, have you looked at V yet?

https://vlang.io/

V is a joke. I don't understand why anyone takes it seriously.

It's current capabilities are probably why. I don't see it as ready yet, but its interesting how much it does in such a short span of time.

What does D offer over OCaml or any other ML-family language? I never really got what its selling point was at the time - "compile-time reflection" sounds like the worst of both worlds (but I guess it means something akin to typeclass derivation?), and the idea that it could kinda-sorta work without GC was never really explained clearly enough.

D shouldn't really be compared to ML. D is really just a reimagined C++, free of a lot of C++'s absurdity and incoherence

But I'm not looking for "a reimagined C++". I'm looking for "a programming language". What is the question for which "a reimagined C++" is the answer? (Maybe a language for use in environments where GC is not acceptable, but D fails to make a convincing case that it is such a language).

D lets you do away with the GC and is working on a borrow checker type system like in Rust.

> D lets you do away with the GC

But you can't use the standard library if so, right? Or rather you can use some parts of the standard library but not others, and some third-party libraries but not others? It was never clearly explained what does and doesn't require GC.

> and is working on a borrow checker type system like in Rust.

But it only started work on that after Rust became established. So why wouldn't I just use Rust, which has a borrow checker I can use today?

Same!

The more I think about what we do in Software the more I value readability. I think one of the reasons I love D is that it clearly treats readability as a design requirement.

I just wish there were more jobs out there using Dlang...

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