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> They directly ripped it off.

No, they used some very common and unoriginal ideas that were implemented in AppGet.

Can you point out exactly what was "ripped off" here?

- https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli

- https://github.com/appget/appget

They're not even written in the same language. And everything done in AppGet has been done before. Yawn

> Big companies will try not to pay even when they have money.

I will try not to pay, even when I have money. I think this applies to most people. Who wants to pays for something that's already free? I'm not running a fuckin charity over here.

> To not even give the minimum of non-monetary credit...

They've given it.

However, I wonder if during all of this Keivan has credited Microsoft for all of the open source tools, services and frameworks that he's used in his other work???

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> Can you point out exactly what was "ripped off" here?

from his blog

"When I showed it to my wife, the first thing she said was, “They Called it WinGet? are you serious!?” I didn’t even have to explain to her how the core mechanics, terminology, the manifest format and structure, even the package repository’s folder structure, are very inspired by AppGet."

> I will try not to pay, even when I have money

Then people like you will kill off exactly the things they leech off, by pissing off those people who made them from their goodwill.

> However, I wonder if during all of this Andrew has credited Microsoft for all of the open source tools, services and frameworks that he's used in his other work???

I don't know, has he? Why raise the question instead of answering it.

You're curiously willing to defend microsoft.

> "When I showed it to my wife, the first thing she said was, “They Called it WinGet? are you serious!?” I didn’t even have to explain to her how the core mechanics, terminology, the manifest format and structure, even the package repository’s folder structure, are very inspired by AppGet."

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet

I wonder if he mentioned his name was inspired by the extremely more well known and 22 year old default package manager in linux that happens to be called apt-get.

I mean honestly if he's saying that as justification in his blog post, I'm immediately off his team. That's insane. Obviously a layman would think the name was ripped off if they didn't know about apt-get.

There's NuGet (another package manager) released by MSFT in 2010.

I compared the manifest format, that's different terminology. And WinGet has more insightful supports, e.g. MinOSVersion, License, LicenseUrl.

And the folder structure is different also. That's per version per file on WinGet but single YAML on AppGet. I'm pretty sure his wife can't handle that if she is not a developer.

"Core Mechanics" => It needed more proof.

> They Called it WinGet? are you serious!?

How many products have "Git" or "React" in their name? Does everybody accuse these people of ripping off Linus Torvalds or Facebook?

> Then people like you will kill off exactly the things they leech off, by pissing off those people who made them from their goodwill.

Because I don't want to pay for the air that I breathe?? Mmkay.

> I don't know, has he? Why raise the question instead of answering it.

You should be answering it because you're the one accusing Microsoft without knowing the whole story.

> You're curiously willing to defend microsoft.

Whenever I see imbalanced, ill-informed or illogical conclusions I speak out against them.

> are very inspired by AppGet.

This is "ripping off" now? Maybe they did steal it wholesale, maybe not, but I haven't seen any evidence (nay, even allegations) of it.

> nay, even allegations

The allegation is right there. His blog. Which I quoted from. But didn't link to, so sorry, here it is https://keivan.io/the-day-appget-died/

inspiration != theft

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